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I am not from the USA and I don't live in the USA. I've read about this issue several times, and I'm not sure whether I understand why it is an issue. > zoning

by pif 4y ago

I am not from the USA and I don't live in the USA. I've read about this issue several times, and I'm not sure whether I understand why it is an issue. > zoning is controlled almost exclusively by local city councils What's wrong with it? People opposing the status quo usually look to imply that every citizen of the USA should have the right to go and live where he likes the most, at the price and at the conditions it prefers. Why should I be able to force, for example, San Francisco to build cheap homes for me to move there? If I can't afford San Francisco, I'll go live elsewhere. Instead, if I live in San Francisco, I will participate in the local political life and vote according to my preferences.

bluGill 4y ago
> > zoning is controlled almost exclusively by local city councils >What's wrong with it? it excludes people who would live there but the zoning doesn't allow it. On the scale of a single town this doesn't matter, but on the scale of an entire metro area all these little zoning groups make it impossible to anything anywhere in the entire area and so it destroys the whole. zoning is good for any one small area, but across the entire metro area the sum total is bad.
- pif 4y ago
  > it excludes people who would live there but the zoning doesn't allow it. Let me be cynical: so what? They'll go and live elsewhere. > it destroys the whole. There is a huge difference between slowing the growth (or even stopping the growth) and destroying a city. A usual problem with successful cities is they attract more people, which attract more business, which attract more people and so on. It's time we learn how to keep the economy in good health without our cities turning to anthills.
  - BenFranklin100 4y ago
    You compare people seeking a better life in a high opportunity city to insects. There’s a fine line between NIMBYism and misanthropy and you just crossed it.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    > so what? They'll go and live elsewhere. What is you get San Franciso where you cannot find enough people who can afford to work in your city to take care of the basic jobs.

by pif 4y ago

bluGill 4y ago

> > zoning is controlled almost exclusively by local city councils >What's wrong with it? it excludes people who would live there but the zoning doesn't allow it. On the scale of a single town this doesn't matter, but on the scale of an entire metro area all these little zoning groups make it impossible to anything anywhere in the entire area and so it destroys the whole. zoning is good for any one small area, but across the entire metro area the sum total is bad.

pif 4y ago
> it excludes people who would live there but the zoning doesn't allow it. Let me be cynical: so what? They'll go and live elsewhere. > it destroys the whole. There is a huge difference between slowing the growth (or even stopping the growth) and destroying a city. A usual problem with successful cities is they attract more people, which attract more business, which attract more people and so on. It's time we learn how to keep the economy in good health without our cities turning to anthills.
- BenFranklin100 4y ago
  You compare people seeking a better life in a high opportunity city to insects. There’s a fine line between NIMBYism and misanthropy and you just crossed it.
- bluGill 4y ago
  > so what? They'll go and live elsewhere. What is you get San Franciso where you cannot find enough people who can afford to work in your city to take care of the basic jobs.