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>Formally all abortions are unjust towards the (potential) person Are contraceptives unjust towards the potential person too? >The question of when human live

by trasz 4y ago

>Formally all abortions are unjust towards the (potential) person Are contraceptives unjust towards the potential person too? >The question of when human lives begins can be a religious argument but it may as well be not. Sure - and in this case the court silently assumed the Catholic ideology.

raxxorraxor 4y ago
> Are contraceptives unjust towards the potential person too? No, the line is drawn after that. It isn't my line either, just how the law sees it. You could argue this to be bad or not, some women complain that the bureaucracy around it made them feel like criminals but others argue that this is normal for German bureaucracy. > Sure - and in this case the court silently assumed the Catholic ideology. And probably protestant and orthodox Christians too. As well as Jews, Buddhists, Hindu and some others. While religion is a good predictor, the reasoning not necessarily is and there are also secular people against abortion as well. I think the court reasoned with a technicality of the law, but I am no expert.
- trasz 4y ago
  The line is drawn where it is because of false assumption based purely on Catholic mythology. Does German law prohibit revisiting past verdicts? >And probably protestant and orthodox Christians too. As well as Jews, Buddhists, Hindu and some others. To many protestants, Jews, Buddhists and Hindu the idea of "life from conception" is no different from what the idea of sacred cows is to Christians. >there are also secular people against abortion as well. There are also secular people against vaccines. There are no valid, non-religious arguments for "life from conception", it's just a superstition invented by a certain religion.
  - raxxorraxor 4y ago
    Wrong or not, it is simply not true that these considerations are specifically based on catholic faith. I believe that is a primitive image of a fictitious enemy.
    - trasz 4y ago
      So your response to a decision that can only be explained by the court assuming a logical fallacy invented by Catholics is that "it's simply not true"? :-D

by trasz 4y ago

raxxorraxor 4y ago

> Are contraceptives unjust towards the potential person too? No, the line is drawn after that. It isn't my line either, just how the law sees it. You could argue this to be bad or not, some women complain that the bureaucracy around it made them feel like criminals but others argue that this is normal for German bureaucracy. > Sure - and in this case the court silently assumed the Catholic ideology. And probably protestant and orthodox Christians too. As well as Jews, Buddhists, Hindu and some others. While religion is a good predictor, the reasoning not necessarily is and there are also secular people against abortion as well. I think the court reasoned with a technicality of the law, but I am no expert.

trasz 4y ago
The line is drawn where it is because of false assumption based purely on Catholic mythology. Does German law prohibit revisiting past verdicts? >And probably protestant and orthodox Christians too. As well as Jews, Buddhists, Hindu and some others. To many protestants, Jews, Buddhists and Hindu the idea of "life from conception" is no different from what the idea of sacred cows is to Christians. >there are also secular people against abortion as well. There are also secular people against vaccines. There are no valid, non-religious arguments for "life from conception", it's just a superstition invented by a certain religion.
- raxxorraxor 4y ago
  Wrong or not, it is simply not true that these considerations are specifically based on catholic faith. I believe that is a primitive image of a fictitious enemy.
  - trasz 4y ago
    So your response to a decision that can only be explained by the court assuming a logical fallacy invented by Catholics is that "it's simply not true"? :-D