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I’m not even sure it’s a majority of constituents so much as a review process that takes the smallest objection very seriously and makes overcoming them very di

I’m not even sure it’s a majority of constituents so much as a review process that takes the smallest objection very seriously and makes overcoming them very difficult.

xyzzyz 4y ago
If the politicians don’t like the process, why don’t they change it? It’s not like San Francisco Board of Supervisors is deadlocked 50-50 and requires filibuster-proof majority. If the construction can be blocked by a single complaint from the last remaining conservative in SF, it is only because SF government allows it to be the case. Frankly, I find blaming “conservatives” for inability of coastal liberal cities to build anything to be rather ludicrous. It can only be true if you define “conservative” as someone who blocks construction in order to conserve status quo, but that only makes it a vacuous tautology. Truth is, there are plenty people in SF who are as progressive as it gets when it comes to both social and economical concerns, but are also not blind or stupid, and know that low income housing project in their neighborhood means dirt, decay, and constant petty crime. Instead of blaming people for trying to live in clean and peaceful places, try to figure out why low income housing projects in Vienna or Amsterdam don’t decay into dens of crime and despair in a way those same places in US do.
- causi 4y ago
  Instead of blaming people for trying to live in clean and peaceful places, try to figure out why low income housing projects in Vienna or Amsterdam don’t decay into dens of crime and despair in a way those same places in US do. This right here. How have we constructed a system in which we can pour thousands of man-hours and millions of dollars into a neighborhood and make it a worse place? That's the big question, and until it's answered I can't blame people for voting in their own best interests.
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I’m not even sure it’s a majority of constituents so much as a review process that takes the smallest objection very seriously and makes overcoming them very difficult.

xyzzyz 4y ago

If the politicians don’t like the process, why don’t they change it? It’s not like San Francisco Board of Supervisors is deadlocked 50-50 and requires filibuster-proof majority. If the construction can be blocked by a single complaint from the last remaining conservative in SF, it is only because SF government allows it to be the case. Frankly, I find blaming “conservatives” for inability of coastal liberal cities to build anything to be rather ludicrous. It can only be true if you define “conservative” as someone who blocks construction in order to conserve status quo, but that only makes it a vacuous tautology. Truth is, there are plenty people in SF who are as progressive as it gets when it comes to both social and economical concerns, but are also not blind or stupid, and know that low income housing project in their neighborhood means dirt, decay, and constant petty crime. Instead of blaming people for trying to live in clean and peaceful places, try to figure out why low income housing projects in Vienna or Amsterdam don’t decay into dens of crime and despair in a way those same places in US do.

causi 4y ago
Instead of blaming people for trying to live in clean and peaceful places, try to figure out why low income housing projects in Vienna or Amsterdam don’t decay into dens of crime and despair in a way those same places in US do. This right here. How have we constructed a system in which we can pour thousands of man-hours and millions of dollars into a neighborhood and make it a worse place? That's the big question, and until it's answered I can't blame people for voting in their own best interests.
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