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From https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v21/n21/francis-spufford/operation-backfire https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v21/n21/francis-spufford/ope... : It was aroun
by avmich 4y ago
From https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v21/n21/francis-spufford/operation-backfire https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v21/n21/francis-spufford/ope... :
It was around this time that an encounter took place between two outlooks almost equally marginal to the spirit of the times in Britain. Arthur C. Clarke, by now a well-established science fiction writer as well as the author of the pioneering paper on satellite communications, had been growing increasingly irritated by the theological science fiction of C.S. Lewis, who saw space travel as a sinful attempt by fallen humanity to overstep its God-given place. In Reflections on the Psalms (1958), for example, Lewis had described it as learning ‘(which God forbid) to ... distribute upon new worlds the vomit of our own corruption’. Clarke contacted Lewis and they arranged to meet in the Eastgate Tavern, Oxford. Clarke brought Val Cleaver as his second; Lewis brought along Tolkien. They saw the world so differently that even argument was scarcely possible. Clarke and Cleaver could not see any darkness in technology, while Lewis and Tolkien could not see the ways in which a new tool genuinely transforms the possibilities of human awareness. For them, machines were at best a purely instrumental source of pipe tobacco and transport to the Bodleian. So what could they do? They all got pissed. ‘I’m sure you are very wicked people,’ said Lewis cheerfully as he staggered away, ‘but how dull it would be if everyone was good.’
- daniel-cussen 4y agoInstruments transform possibilities insofar as they required a transformation of possibilities and a transformation of the mind to come about. And the profit with which they do so determines their worth.
- schoen 4y ago> They all got pissed. I.e., drunk (British English), not angry (American English)!
- littlestymaar 4y agoThank you!
- high_5 4y agoFascinating! Imagine such conversation: Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Tolkien: "Yes! Because it IS! magic." Clarke looking baffled at the response and trying to explain it to himself on the latest round of ale ("welp, it's still the 1st round, it's going to be a long night"). The problem with scientific framework is that it takes man out of the equation and than tries to say that this is all there is (science is not good nor bad, just is, right?). Yet for all the progress we were given in the last three centuries a lot of bad came out of it too. Yet we can't blame it on the science because we can't have the holistic worldview from scientific standpoint.
- TooSmugToFail 4y agoExcellent essay, thank you!