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> letting you do this same thing on a much less consequential device than your home computer, your cellphone or your tablet Last I heard then officially defend

> letting you do this same thing on a much less consequential device than your home computer, your cellphone or your tablet Last I heard then officially defend this apparent contradiction, the Apple rep asserted that people's phones are in fact the more important/personal devices, as well as being more common, and as such security on iOS is more important than on macOS.

asdff 4y ago
But why, because the phone connects to your instagram account? Meanwhile, most people's computers have passwords to literally all their accounts saved in the various system or web browser autofillers. They might also have personal documents such as tax information saved locally. Maybe even their social security number and other very important information written down in a word document on their desktop. Especially if your macbook is synced with icloud, I can't imagine why your phone might be a more sensitive device considering at that point the macbook is at feature parity with everything sensitive that the iphone does and more perhaps.
- idle_zealot 4y ago
  Consider that most internet-connected people only have a phone, and many that own a "real computer" use it primarily for work. The phone has their banking info, health info, personal communications, professional communications, most of their browsing history. A huge number of people manage their taxes on their phones. I think Apple's claim that in aggregate they are more important than laptops/desktops is largely accurate. That said, I consider that all the more reason that people should be able to run whatever software they wish on their phone. The present paradigm of such a personal device's operation being totally out of the hands of its owner is troubling.
  - asdff 4y ago
    If their iphone has that, by virtue of icloud sync, their macbook if they have one has that same sensitive info as well. So is apple saying then, if you want to be the most secure, don't buy our macbook and don't sync it up with your iphone?

asdff 4y ago

But why, because the phone connects to your instagram account? Meanwhile, most people's computers have passwords to literally all their accounts saved in the various system or web browser autofillers. They might also have personal documents such as tax information saved locally. Maybe even their social security number and other very important information written down in a word document on their desktop. Especially if your macbook is synced with icloud, I can't imagine why your phone might be a more sensitive device considering at that point the macbook is at feature parity with everything sensitive that the iphone does and more perhaps.

idle_zealot 4y ago
Consider that most internet-connected people only have a phone, and many that own a "real computer" use it primarily for work. The phone has their banking info, health info, personal communications, professional communications, most of their browsing history. A huge number of people manage their taxes on their phones. I think Apple's claim that in aggregate they are more important than laptops/desktops is largely accurate. That said, I consider that all the more reason that people should be able to run whatever software they wish on their phone. The present paradigm of such a personal device's operation being totally out of the hands of its owner is troubling.
- asdff 4y ago
  If their iphone has that, by virtue of icloud sync, their macbook if they have one has that same sensitive info as well. So is apple saying then, if you want to be the most secure, don't buy our macbook and don't sync it up with your iphone?