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What leverage exactly? Consider a major split between SA and US. Who do you think would come out worse off?

by jhugo 4y ago

themodelplumber 4y ago
I don't understand the questions. You can't see how knowing of a SA conspiracy against the US is leverage? Edit: Things you could do: - Increase cultural pressure within US SA community - Increase cultural pressure within US arab community - Tell SA you are wondering what Israel thinks about this - Incentivize new cultural narratives (film, books, etc) and redirect special funding to think tanks - Create a long-term partnership coalition - Behind the scenes: Find new weak spots in SA - Behind the scenes: Exploit new weak spots in SA, foment a renewed arab spring, etc. These are just the tip of the iceberg, there must be thousands more. The bad things that would happen as a result: - Reduced SA govt access to power - Reduced SA govt access to needed resources - Reduced SA govt image - Increasing trouble literally anywhere in or with SA.
- jhugo 4y ago
  It's only leverage if you can describe the bad thing that would happen to SA if the conspiracy came out. From where I'm standing, the US has more to lose in this situation.
- jhugo 4y ago
  What incentive does the US have to decrease SA power and stability, considering that they one of US's strongest partners in the region? All of the things you list seem like a negative outcome for the US.
Spooky23 4y ago
Look at the hysterics over the current gas crisis. Break it off with the Saudi and you’ll be wistfully looking back at $5 gas. The Saudi regime would have some issues too, but the worse things are for them, the worse it would be for the west.
- themodelplumber 4y ago
  This develops an immobilization in which the best choice is suspiciously-often found in accepting whatever comes; it's the prophet's conceit, a non-executive position which seeks to intuit outcomes rather than take risk and develop a smart path forward. In application this psychology is not suitable for the full scope of political decisionmaking. One needs to design a subjective logical system in which the leverage operates. The leverage could be used in thousands of different ways.

What leverage exactly? Consider a major split between SA and US. Who do you think would come out worse off?

by jhugo 4y ago

What leverage exactly? Consider a major split between SA and US. Who do you think would come out worse off?

I don't understand the questions. You can't see how knowing of a SA conspiracy against the US is leverage? Edit: Things you could do: - Increase cultural pressure within US SA community - Increase cultural pressure within US arab community - Tell SA you are wondering what Israel thinks about this - Incentivize new cultural narratives (film, books, etc) and redirect special funding to think tanks - Create a long-term partnership coalition - Behind the scenes: Find new weak spots in SA - Behind the scenes: Exploit new weak spots in SA, foment a renewed arab spring, etc. These are just the tip of the iceberg, there must be thousands more. The bad things that would happen as a result: - Reduced SA govt access to power - Reduced SA govt access to needed resources - Reduced SA govt image - Increasing trouble literally anywhere in or with SA.

jhugo 4y ago
It's only leverage if you can describe the bad thing that would happen to SA if the conspiracy came out. From where I'm standing, the US has more to lose in this situation.
jhugo 4y ago
What incentive does the US have to decrease SA power and stability, considering that they one of US's strongest partners in the region? All of the things you list seem like a negative outcome for the US.

Spooky23 4y ago

Look at the hysterics over the current gas crisis. Break it off with the Saudi and you’ll be wistfully looking back at $5 gas. The Saudi regime would have some issues too, but the worse things are for them, the worse it would be for the west.

themodelplumber 4y ago
This develops an immobilization in which the best choice is suspiciously-often found in accepting whatever comes; it's the prophet's conceit, a non-executive position which seeks to intuit outcomes rather than take risk and develop a smart path forward. In application this psychology is not suitable for the full scope of political decisionmaking. One needs to design a subjective logical system in which the leverage operates. The leverage could be used in thousands of different ways.