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Not sure what point you're trying to make or refute, but this is what I was addressing. "That's a hill?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31896087 https://

Not sure what point you're trying to make or refute, but this is what I was addressing. "That's a hill?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31896087 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31896087 Yes, it's a hill. Maybe a small hill, maybe a mild gradient, but still a hill. We already have multiple sports involved in this thread, and none of them have goalposts so let's not move any. The motorists, who have it even easier physically than the cyclists, call it a hill. Maybe we should just let them. Turning it into an "I'm so tough" contest is just silly, especially from folks who are squarely in the middle of the effort-per-mile scale.

prmoustache 4y ago
Is referring to my previous comment where I said it was pretty mild. The road in my backdoor that I use for my short cycling climbing loops is averaging 5.8% over 18.8km, from sea level to 1100m. It is only difficult because it includes 2 small descents in between which mean that some parts have to be double-digit gradients, including one at +17%, to reach that final elevation. Appart from that 17% part it is still considered a relatively easy climb. So is it a hill? Yes. Is it a really small and mild one, also yes.
- notacoward 4y ago
  Since you persist ... have you ever tried that climb without a few thousand dollars worth of carbon fibre and aluminum to help? That was my original suggestion, and unlike some I'm sticking to it.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    And I've seen people climb it with some 2-3 decade old 26" MTB and I climbed far more difficult climbs with my 13kg (28lbs) fat bike and my 15kg (33lbs) full suspension trail bike.
    - notacoward 4y ago
      That's still not what I asked about, is it? People need to stop saying "it's easy for me" when "it" isn't what we were talking about. It's like a compulsion. 5.7% for a mile is still a hill and doing it on foot would put any ideas to the contrary out of anyone's mind. Doing it with a 3-4x mechanical advantage, even with 20% extra weight, proves nothing either about whether it's a hill or about the commenter.
      - nl 4y ago
        >>> have you ever tried that climb without a few thousand dollars worth of carbon fibre and aluminum to help? >> I've seen people climb it with some 2-3 decade old 26" MTB and I climbed far more difficult climbs with my 13kg (28lbs) fat bike and my 15kg (33lbs) full suspension trail bike. > Not what I was asking. That would be "yes". I don't understand how you think he didn't answer your question. Edit: unless you mean "have you run/walked up it?" - but I don't understand what the point of that question would be.
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nl 4y ago
> Not sure what point you're trying to make or refute The person you responded to said "Even by cyclists standard, 6% is pretty mild." and you said "That's funny" and went on to say how some cyclists struggle on it. I was confirming that "cyclists" (as in people who enjoy the sport of cycling as opposed to ride a bike to get somewhere) generally think a 6% hill is mild.
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prmoustache 4y ago

Is referring to my previous comment where I said it was pretty mild. The road in my backdoor that I use for my short cycling climbing loops is averaging 5.8% over 18.8km, from sea level to 1100m. It is only difficult because it includes 2 small descents in between which mean that some parts have to be double-digit gradients, including one at +17%, to reach that final elevation. Appart from that 17% part it is still considered a relatively easy climb. So is it a hill? Yes. Is it a really small and mild one, also yes.

notacoward 4y ago
Since you persist ... have you ever tried that climb without a few thousand dollars worth of carbon fibre and aluminum to help? That was my original suggestion, and unlike some I'm sticking to it.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  And I've seen people climb it with some 2-3 decade old 26" MTB and I climbed far more difficult climbs with my 13kg (28lbs) fat bike and my 15kg (33lbs) full suspension trail bike.
  - notacoward 4y ago
    That's still not what I asked about, is it? People need to stop saying "it's easy for me" when "it" isn't what we were talking about. It's like a compulsion. 5.7% for a mile is still a hill and doing it on foot would put any ideas to the contrary out of anyone's mind. Doing it with a 3-4x mechanical advantage, even with 20% extra weight, proves nothing either about whether it's a hill or about the commenter.
    - nl 4y ago
      >>> have you ever tried that climb without a few thousand dollars worth of carbon fibre and aluminum to help? >> I've seen people climb it with some 2-3 decade old 26" MTB and I climbed far more difficult climbs with my 13kg (28lbs) fat bike and my 15kg (33lbs) full suspension trail bike. > Not what I was asking. That would be "yes". I don't understand how you think he didn't answer your question. Edit: unless you mean "have you run/walked up it?" - but I don't understand what the point of that question would be.
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nl 4y ago

> Not sure what point you're trying to make or refute The person you responded to said "Even by cyclists standard, 6% is pretty mild." and you said "That's funny" and went on to say how some cyclists struggle on it. I was confirming that "cyclists" (as in people who enjoy the sport of cycling as opposed to ride a bike to get somewhere) generally think a 6% hill is mild.

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