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…or be compelled to take a vaccine with less than a year of safety data.
by michaelrpeskin 4y ago
…or be compelled to take a vaccine with less than a year of safety data.
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- roflyear 4y agoWhat a bad take. You were encouraged to take the vaccine, you were not forced to. You know that and you're just being dishonest.
- michaelrpeskin 4y agoYeah. I was being a bit hyperbolic. But there was lots of talk about ways to force vaccination. Including mandates for keeping your job (both in the public and private sector). You might say that a private company can do what they want (and the libertarian in me says yes) but then you need to be consistent on the other side - remember the uproar when Hobby Lobby said they didn’t want to pay for insure that provided abortion services? I’m really not taking sides here, I’m just pointing out that we should strive for self-consistency in our government regulations. And either you have a right to your body or you don’t. You can’t pick and choose.
- roflyear 4y agoNothing is absolute. You don't have the right to walk around naked. Sometimes your body autonomy is taken away in some scenarios. I don't think the vaccines should be one. Just because people talked about how to encourage vaccines being taken and were upset they were forced to work with unvaccinated coworkers doesn't mean anti abortion policies are good. You're just a troll.
- nkrisc 4y agoNo one was forcibly vaccinated. The use of incentives and disincentives to encourage vaccination can certainly be debated, but no had a vaccine forced into their body against their will. Plenty of people are still not vaccinated by choice.
- michaelrpeskin 4y agoYes. See my reply to the sibling comment for my less snippy clarification.
- 6nf 4y ago> No one was forcibly vaccinated. This is not quite correct. Some people were vaccinated against their will. Some old folks homes in the EU vaccinated residents even if they did not consent, for example.
- nkrisc 4y agoEverything I’ve said is about the US in particular. What you described would almost certainly be illegal in the US, unless the care home had power of attorney over the residents in question.
- raxxorraxor 4y agoAn employer forcing employees to be vaccinated is nothing else as people may be dependent on the income. This is not an argument against abortion, it is an argument against "my body my choice" line. In the vaccination case that would be true but the discussion around abortion is the premise that there are two competing interests which the argument neglects.
- nkrisc 4y agoI don’t think the argument neglects so I’ll say it more clearly: the rights of the mother trump those of the fetus when it comes to her body.