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Fun Fact! For those of you with an Apple Watch. The watch itself has a pretty impressive microphone and the built-in "Voice Memo" app is incredibly good at rec

Fun Fact! For those of you with an Apple Watch. The watch itself has a pretty impressive microphone and the built-in "Voice Memo" app is incredibly good at recording for long periods. After starting a recording, if you return to the watch screen there's no big "give away" that recording is happening. I've started doing something similar to the Author of the article. Whenever I feel I'm entering a conversation I'll need later I start recording. Recordings autosync back to the phone, the "Voice Memo" phone app can skip periods of silence, AND best of all the recordings can be easily exported to other things.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
I thought my friends installing smart speakers I feel compelled to unplug was annoying...you're my worst nightmare!
- pc86 4y ago
  You're just unplugging other people's things?
  - Handytinge 4y ago
    Absolutely. If I see one in a room I'm in, I'll immediately walk over and unplug it. Why would I choose to be recorded?
  - AlecSchueler 4y ago
    Other people are just recording their words?
    - pc86 4y ago
      "Smart speaker" sort of presupposes they're already in that other person's space, likely a home or apartment, maybe an office.
      - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        Invited in — without being told I may be recorded.
- godmode2019 4y ago
  I don't even enter some peoples houses that have 'smart speakers'. Why on earth do they have them is the question I can't figure out.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Because they assume a different risk factor than you do.
    - pc86 4y ago
      No, clearly they're just stupid, come on.
  - criddell 4y ago
    That battle has been lost. Even if people didn’t have a smart speaker, they almost certainly have a smart phone and it’s way, way worse from a surveillance perspective.
  - Jcowell 4y ago
    The speakers have a really great sound and I like turning my lights on and off with them . The also mesh well with my other devices.
nobody9999 4y ago
>I've started doing something similar to the Author of the article. Whenever I feel I'm entering a conversation I'll need later I start recording. Not sure where you're located, but some places require all parties to be aware that they're being recorded and not informing (and receiving consent) other parties can be a illegal act[0] in the US. This link[1] looks at the US and other (a not very comprehensive list) countries. I'm emphatically not saying you shouldn't record stuff, just that there are laws and you should be aware of them. [0] https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/ https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/ [1] https://www.telemessage.com/call-recording-laws-an-international-comparison/ https://www.telemessage.com/call-recording-laws-an-internati...
- mmh0000 4y ago
  This is a good point to bring up, and I am in a single-party-consent state. But, if I'm being honest, I don't care. These recordings are for my own use, and beyond the anonymity the internet provides. No one knows I do this. I have found having these recordings which I have automatically transcribed, to be easily searchable. To be a huge life saver when clients change system requirements mid-project, or bosses start attempting to gaslight. People just think I have an amazing memory.
  - voisin 4y ago
    What do you use for auto transcribing?
    - saenns 4y ago
      otter.ai is excellent
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    > No one knows I do this. Apple sure does :)
  - nobody9999 4y ago
Kiboneu 4y ago
Well, there is a giveaway, but one would need to know it and have good points in perception. I generally use the assumption that I’m being recorded (with people / groups I don’t know well) as a speech filter / clarity motivator.
beckman466 4y ago
this is a great strategy and a patriotic one even, i mean, just imagine if the NSA were to lose their copy of your data and they'd actually need access to it. then they could just use whatever Intel Management Engine type backdoor software you need to access that person's personal devices and voila, you've got yourself a viable new copy of the file. let people collect their own evidence for you!

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago

I thought my friends installing smart speakers I feel compelled to unplug was annoying...you're my worst nightmare!

pc86 4y ago
You're just unplugging other people's things?
- Handytinge 4y ago
  Absolutely. If I see one in a room I'm in, I'll immediately walk over and unplug it. Why would I choose to be recorded?
- AlecSchueler 4y ago
  Other people are just recording their words?
  - pc86 4y ago
    "Smart speaker" sort of presupposes they're already in that other person's space, likely a home or apartment, maybe an office.
    - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
      Invited in — without being told I may be recorded.
godmode2019 4y ago
I don't even enter some peoples houses that have 'smart speakers'. Why on earth do they have them is the question I can't figure out.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Because they assume a different risk factor than you do.
  - pc86 4y ago
    No, clearly they're just stupid, come on.
- criddell 4y ago
  That battle has been lost. Even if people didn’t have a smart speaker, they almost certainly have a smart phone and it’s way, way worse from a surveillance perspective.
- Jcowell 4y ago
  The speakers have a really great sound and I like turning my lights on and off with them . The also mesh well with my other devices.

nobody9999 4y ago

>I've started doing something similar to the Author of the article. Whenever I feel I'm entering a conversation I'll need later I start recording. Not sure where you're located, but some places require all parties to be aware that they're being recorded and not informing (and receiving consent) other parties can be a illegal act[0] in the US. This link[1] looks at the US and other (a not very comprehensive list) countries. I'm emphatically not saying you shouldn't record stuff, just that there are laws and you should be aware of them. [0] https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/ https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/ [1] https://www.telemessage.com/call-recording-laws-an-international-comparison/ https://www.telemessage.com/call-recording-laws-an-internati...

mmh0000 4y ago
This is a good point to bring up, and I am in a single-party-consent state. But, if I'm being honest, I don't care. These recordings are for my own use, and beyond the anonymity the internet provides. No one knows I do this. I have found having these recordings which I have automatically transcribed, to be easily searchable. To be a huge life saver when clients change system requirements mid-project, or bosses start attempting to gaslight. People just think I have an amazing memory.
- voisin 4y ago
  What do you use for auto transcribing?
  - saenns 4y ago
    otter.ai is excellent
- smoldesu 4y ago
  > No one knows I do this. Apple sure does :)
- nobody9999 4y ago

Kiboneu 4y ago

Well, there is a giveaway, but one would need to know it and have good points in perception. I generally use the assumption that I’m being recorded (with people / groups I don’t know well) as a speech filter / clarity motivator.

beckman466 4y ago

this is a great strategy and a patriotic one even, i mean, just imagine if the NSA were to lose their copy of your data and they'd actually need access to it. then they could just use whatever Intel Management Engine type backdoor software you need to access that person's personal devices and voila, you've got yourself a viable new copy of the file. let people collect their own evidence for you!