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can publicly available data be the property of someone?

mtmail 4y ago
It seems to be related to the product images, or the images were easiest to identify and fight over https://www.trolley.co.uk/imgs/cease-and-desist-letter.png https://www.trolley.co.uk/imgs/cease-and-desist-letter.png While a product name, price could be public (a person can see it in a store), the picture is very specific and trolley didn't take the pictures.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  It seems they could also just cease use of the 'offending' informationa nd use generic imagery or descriptions instead. For bandwidth/processing reasons, I'd prefer as much text and as few graphics as possible anyway.
  - sdflhasjd 4y ago
    Unfortunately, supermarket products would be difficult to distinguish without imagery.
    - itake 4y ago
      even then, why does it cost 28k PER YEAR, for photos of product images? Can't you just spend a week in a market taking product photos yourself?
      - mtmail 4y ago
        They could but at this point the (claimed) damage is already done. The price is high but I'd imagine that company guarantees high resolution professional photos of every product. Chasing the last remaining 10% products might be hard. At 160.000 products, let's say spending 1 minute per product (finding it, post production etc) at 12h/day it takes one person 9 months. Crowdsourcing the task might work.
      - michaelt 4y ago
        [1] is a report of Tesco reducing the range of distinct products they stock from ~90,000 to ~63,000. Some of which will be seasonal items like easter eggs. Some others will only be available in certain stores. I suspect taking 63,000 product photos, and keeping them all matched up to the right products is probably more than a week's work. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/tesco-cuts-range-products https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/tesco-cuts-...
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bpicolo 4y ago
Depends on your country / jurisdiction
hd4 4y ago
Practically, no. Especially when different jurisdictions etc. become a factor.
paxys 4y ago
Depends. If I spend a ton of time and effort to aggregate data from public sources and license it out, my dataset can still be considered proprietary.
100721 4y ago
The Google logo is publicly available on Google’s website. Does anyone own the Google logo?

It seems to be related to the product images, or the images were easiest to identify and fight over https://www.trolley.co.uk/imgs/cease-and-desist-letter.png https://www.trolley.co.uk/imgs/cease-and-desist-letter.png While a product name, price could be public (a person can see it in a store), the picture is very specific and trolley didn't take the pictures.

anigbrowl 4y ago
It seems they could also just cease use of the 'offending' informationa nd use generic imagery or descriptions instead. For bandwidth/processing reasons, I'd prefer as much text and as few graphics as possible anyway.
- sdflhasjd 4y ago
  Unfortunately, supermarket products would be difficult to distinguish without imagery.
  - itake 4y ago
    even then, why does it cost 28k PER YEAR, for photos of product images? Can't you just spend a week in a market taking product photos yourself?
    - mtmail 4y ago
      They could but at this point the (claimed) damage is already done. The price is high but I'd imagine that company guarantees high resolution professional photos of every product. Chasing the last remaining 10% products might be hard. At 160.000 products, let's say spending 1 minute per product (finding it, post production etc) at 12h/day it takes one person 9 months. Crowdsourcing the task might work.
    - michaelt 4y ago
      [1] is a report of Tesco reducing the range of distinct products they stock from ~90,000 to ~63,000. Some of which will be seasonal items like easter eggs. Some others will only be available in certain stores. I suspect taking 63,000 product photos, and keeping them all matched up to the right products is probably more than a week's work. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/tesco-cuts-range-products https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/tesco-cuts-...
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bpicolo 4y ago

Depends on your country / jurisdiction

hd4 4y ago

Practically, no. Especially when different jurisdictions etc. become a factor.

paxys 4y ago

Depends. If I spend a ton of time and effort to aggregate data from public sources and license it out, my dataset can still be considered proprietary.

100721 4y ago

The Google logo is publicly available on Google’s website. Does anyone own the Google logo?