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Firmly believe that these algorithms will be the downfall of society. They are driven by pay per click/ view advertising and have done more to echo chamber peop

Firmly believe that these algorithms will be the downfall of society. They are driven by pay per click/ view advertising and have done more to echo chamber people than anything in history. You are only shown news and videos that support what you already believe. If you don't believe it at first you will soon as you are just going to get fed messages enforcing what you clicked on. Remember when the NBA player believed in a flat earth because of a youtube rabbit hole? This is what's caused the massive political split in the US and perhaps eventually the collapse of democracy. With that said there are few sites more frustrating than the Google News homepage. I clicked on a marvel movie review months ago and now half my news is comics related. Drives me insane.

throw8383833jj 4y ago
Echo chamber is right. How many hundreds of solar ads am I going to get before the algorithm FINALLLY realizes that I ALREADY have Solar and happy with it. i can't imagine all the wasted ad dollars wasted on me.
akomtu 4y ago
> that support what you already believe More likely, the echo chamber algorithm wants to show you what will trigger you the most, so you'd contribute as much of your energy as possible in response. I believe that somewhere in the dungeons these companies keep user profiles with red-blue response maps: areas with red mean that the user will be outraged with this statement, and areas with blue mean something that the user agrees with religiously. By skillfully matching these red-blue maps with each other, the algorithm creates an angry echo chamber.
- cratermoon 4y ago
  The behaviors they try to evoke are less like outrage and more like gambling. It just so happens that many people are motivated by controversy, but just as many are motivated to get likes, follows, or just to see if the next pull of the lever will come up all 7s. In Vegas, the slot machines and games are explicitly designed to pay off in small amounts just enough to keep the player engaged, hoping for the big payoff. Some of those same game design theorists have worked with social media companies. https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who-make-apps-addictive https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who...

throw8383833jj 4y ago

Echo chamber is right. How many hundreds of solar ads am I going to get before the algorithm FINALLLY realizes that I ALREADY have Solar and happy with it. i can't imagine all the wasted ad dollars wasted on me.

akomtu 4y ago

> that support what you already believe More likely, the echo chamber algorithm wants to show you what will trigger you the most, so you'd contribute as much of your energy as possible in response. I believe that somewhere in the dungeons these companies keep user profiles with red-blue response maps: areas with red mean that the user will be outraged with this statement, and areas with blue mean something that the user agrees with religiously. By skillfully matching these red-blue maps with each other, the algorithm creates an angry echo chamber.

cratermoon 4y ago
The behaviors they try to evoke are less like outrage and more like gambling. It just so happens that many people are motivated by controversy, but just as many are motivated to get likes, follows, or just to see if the next pull of the lever will come up all 7s. In Vegas, the slot machines and games are explicitly designed to pay off in small amounts just enough to keep the player engaged, hoping for the big payoff. Some of those same game design theorists have worked with social media companies. https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who-make-apps-addictive https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who...