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Honestly? How many always have an Android/iOS device in their pocket, they use it all day long, talking and texting with it, taking photos send to some cloud fo

by kkfx 4y ago

Honestly? How many always have an Android/iOS device in their pocket, they use it all day long, talking and texting with it, taking photos send to some cloud for backups etc, ... yes, the war is definitively lost, also because most choose not to really fight it. People could and should change attitude but so far those who change are a so little minority to being just irrelevant at social scale. It does not even matter that some or many aspects of surveillance capitalism fails partially or substantially, once you create the surveillance infra some parts will be surely failure but the overall architecture pay back anyway those who control it. Take a look at China... Some fight back sure, who does it matter? Let's say I do my best, at a really paranoid level, to try protecting my privacy: I can't even going in urbanized are since they are full of cams like most modern vehicles. I can't probably use a bank here since 99% of them demand a crapplication who run only on Android/iOS (of course, not in an emulator) as a third factor for auth, I might be able to circumvent their check BUT it's a continuous fight for what? The list is soooo long that at maximum you can try fighting for the army honor, not to win...

nonrandomstring 4y ago
> Take a look at China... Let me stop you there. This is not China. So are you finished with wailing whataboutism?
- kkfx 4y ago
  This is not China, for now, we run at a very high speed to copy them. Social score is already there, started with covid excuses, but there, the push toward e-cash, qr-codes+mobiles etc is here. I do not call whataboutism foreseeing tomorrow...
  - nonrandomstring 4y ago
    > foreseeing tomorrow Or maybe, imagining tomorrow in your worst fears. There is an important difference between prophecy, which may be right or wrong, but is generally welcome, and defeatist doomsaying or catastrophising ("the war is lost") which is not. It generally makes people dislike you because there is nothing of value to take from one who says "there's no point even trying". I once shared a lifeboat with someone who spoke this way. After only 10 minutes of hearing them say "we're never going to make it", the others and I were very close to simply throwing him over the side. :)
    - kkfx 4y ago
      There is not only a single war, but many. Personally the war I fight now, the one I imaging to be "winnable enough" is about personal data possession witch means for instance my mails on my iron under my availability instead of on someone else server, a personal domain name so I hopefully being able to transfer it from a vendor to another without changing my URLs etc. That's a thing I advertise to anyone: do your best to have local tools and data. For instance do not leave photos on mobile, sync them at least etc.
      - nonrandomstring 4y ago
        > Personally the war I fight now, the one I imaging to be "winnable enough" is about personal data So you're a fighter. {{brotherly hugs}} Your comment yesterday was bugging me. Today I feel happier. Yes, things are bleak with rising technofascism, but I sincerely think it thrives on ignorance, apathy and defeatism. And those are beatable demons. > That's a thing I advertise to anyone: do your best to have local tools and data. Telling other people, helping educate and inform, spreading possibilities, these are really important things. > There is not only a single war, but many. All great victories are about insignificant people doing their bit. Don't worry about the grand strategy, it's too big to see. Rest in the knowledge that somewhere else another hacker is doing their bit, and all these little wars together add up to something positive for humanity. respects

by kkfx 4y ago

nonrandomstring 4y ago

> Take a look at China... Let me stop you there. This is not China. So are you finished with wailing whataboutism?

kkfx 4y ago
This is not China, for now, we run at a very high speed to copy them. Social score is already there, started with covid excuses, but there, the push toward e-cash, qr-codes+mobiles etc is here. I do not call whataboutism foreseeing tomorrow...
- nonrandomstring 4y ago
  > foreseeing tomorrow Or maybe, imagining tomorrow in your worst fears. There is an important difference between prophecy, which may be right or wrong, but is generally welcome, and defeatist doomsaying or catastrophising ("the war is lost") which is not. It generally makes people dislike you because there is nothing of value to take from one who says "there's no point even trying". I once shared a lifeboat with someone who spoke this way. After only 10 minutes of hearing them say "we're never going to make it", the others and I were very close to simply throwing him over the side. :)
  - kkfx 4y ago
    There is not only a single war, but many. Personally the war I fight now, the one I imaging to be "winnable enough" is about personal data possession witch means for instance my mails on my iron under my availability instead of on someone else server, a personal domain name so I hopefully being able to transfer it from a vendor to another without changing my URLs etc. That's a thing I advertise to anyone: do your best to have local tools and data. For instance do not leave photos on mobile, sync them at least etc.
    - nonrandomstring 4y ago
      > Personally the war I fight now, the one I imaging to be "winnable enough" is about personal data So you're a fighter. {{brotherly hugs}} Your comment yesterday was bugging me. Today I feel happier. Yes, things are bleak with rising technofascism, but I sincerely think it thrives on ignorance, apathy and defeatism. And those are beatable demons. > That's a thing I advertise to anyone: do your best to have local tools and data. Telling other people, helping educate and inform, spreading possibilities, these are really important things. > There is not only a single war, but many. All great victories are about insignificant people doing their bit. Don't worry about the grand strategy, it's too big to see. Rest in the knowledge that somewhere else another hacker is doing their bit, and all these little wars together add up to something positive for humanity. respects