> Vitalik prefers to discover stuff on his own. So how does he get on these podcasts? Maybe he listens to the podcasts, or is familiar with the hosts, and thin

> Vitalik prefers to discover stuff on his own. So how does he get on these podcasts? Maybe he listens to the podcasts, or is familiar with the hosts, and thinks they are good? That seems like the most parsimonious explanation.