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I desperately want to work in an office again, but there are effectively no opportunities to do so. The companies doing in-office around here are outfits like D

I desperately want to work in an office again, but there are effectively no opportunities to do so. The companies doing in-office around here are outfits like Dish Network, that everyone knows are terrible employers. Like it or not, the software labor market is now nationwide, and remote is the rule rather than the exception. I don't know how long that will last, as I see very obvious negatives to remote for creative work, but for now that's how it is.

exolymph 4y ago
Would coworking or being a regular at a cafe help?
- missedthecue 4y ago
  Not for me. Coworking and cafes scratch the "I need to get out of my apartment" itch, but what I really value about in-person work is the collaboration and relationship-building with teammates that is not otherwise possible or easily achieved. I'm not sure if other people (particularly here on HN) can even relate to this, but working is a lot like everything else in life for me. I'd rather see my therapist in person than over Zoom. I would rather hang out with my friends than FaceTime them. And I would rather be in an office with people than Slacking and Zooming. I like being able to pull someone into a meeting room with a drawing board and explain ideas. I love small talk. These are things that are not easily replicable via telephony. Some companies do the 'one day per week in office", or "we have an office space you can use if you want to" but this doesn't solve my problem either. What I want only works if everyone else is cooperating. In the meantime, I have found that working remotely or alone in a big office building, which I do most days, is making me unhappy. But there just aren't any other options.
mikhael28 4y ago
It exists dude. You just have to move to a tech hub like Seattle, SF, Miami, Austin - and then ruthlessly weed out companies that aren't in the office. You will likely need to work in a smaller startup, 5-50 employees who are in a smaller space. I've got this situation in Seattle, but can luckily work remotely whenever. Unlimited PTO. Great business, on the up and up - coming into the office helps us get stuff done, and build camraderie but we have multiple people who are fully remote as well. Find a place that respects what you are looking for, it's out there - don't give up.
- slotrans 4y ago
  41 years old with a family. Can't move.

exolymph 4y ago

Would coworking or being a regular at a cafe help?

missedthecue 4y ago
Not for me. Coworking and cafes scratch the "I need to get out of my apartment" itch, but what I really value about in-person work is the collaboration and relationship-building with teammates that is not otherwise possible or easily achieved. I'm not sure if other people (particularly here on HN) can even relate to this, but working is a lot like everything else in life for me. I'd rather see my therapist in person than over Zoom. I would rather hang out with my friends than FaceTime them. And I would rather be in an office with people than Slacking and Zooming. I like being able to pull someone into a meeting room with a drawing board and explain ideas. I love small talk. These are things that are not easily replicable via telephony. Some companies do the 'one day per week in office", or "we have an office space you can use if you want to" but this doesn't solve my problem either. What I want only works if everyone else is cooperating. In the meantime, I have found that working remotely or alone in a big office building, which I do most days, is making me unhappy. But there just aren't any other options.

mikhael28 4y ago

It exists dude. You just have to move to a tech hub like Seattle, SF, Miami, Austin - and then ruthlessly weed out companies that aren't in the office. You will likely need to work in a smaller startup, 5-50 employees who are in a smaller space. I've got this situation in Seattle, but can luckily work remotely whenever. Unlimited PTO. Great business, on the up and up - coming into the office helps us get stuff done, and build camraderie but we have multiple people who are fully remote as well. Find a place that respects what you are looking for, it's out there - don't give up.

slotrans 4y ago
41 years old with a family. Can't move.