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Yandex and Facebook are both more open than OpenAI? And the world isn’t ending because large language models were released? Shocking.

jacooper 4y ago
OpenAI is basically only open in the name.
- enlyth 4y ago
  I guess "Closed source pay-as-you-go AI" didn't have quite a ring to it
- tiborsaas 4y ago
  Maybe they meant Opening up AI :)
  - bobkazamakis 4y ago
    OpenWallet
- dqpb 4y ago
  It’s basic run-of-the-mill gaslighting.
- thesiniot 4y ago
  It reminds me of that time the US Air Force designed an "open source jet engine". https://www.wpafb.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2011131/afrl-tests-in-house-rapidly-developed-small-engine/ https://www.wpafb.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/201113... Their definition of "open source" turned out to be: "the government owns the source IP instead of some defense contractor. No, you can't see it." In fairness, I'm impressed that they even got that far. How do you think the defense contractor lobbyists responded to that program?
Judgmentality 4y ago
You dare question the gatekeepers of our future AI overlords?
BbzzbB 4y ago
What are the odds they (OpenAI) keep their self-imposed returns capped at 100x? Is there a betting pool somewhere?
- hhmc 4y ago
  Returns on what?
  - BbzzbB 4y ago
    Their investment, based on the first round. That's how they justified flip-flopping away from being an NPO[0]. If I had to bet, just as they pivoted from non-profit to capped-profit, they'll pivot from capped-profit to regular-for-profit when the time comes. Not that I have something against for-profits, but it all (name & mission) feels hypocritical and plain branding/marketing. 0: https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ > Returns for our first round of investors are capped at 100x their investment (commensurate with the risks in front of us), and we expect this multiple to be lower for future rounds as we make further progress.
    - hhmc 4y ago
      I agree that it's pretty meaningless if you can just pivot at the appropriate time. Public benefit corporation feels like the best compromise.

jacooper 4y ago

OpenAI is basically only open in the name.

enlyth 4y ago
I guess "Closed source pay-as-you-go AI" didn't have quite a ring to it
tiborsaas 4y ago
Maybe they meant Opening up AI :)
- bobkazamakis 4y ago
  OpenWallet
dqpb 4y ago
It’s basic run-of-the-mill gaslighting.
thesiniot 4y ago
It reminds me of that time the US Air Force designed an "open source jet engine". https://www.wpafb.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2011131/afrl-tests-in-house-rapidly-developed-small-engine/ https://www.wpafb.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/201113... Their definition of "open source" turned out to be: "the government owns the source IP instead of some defense contractor. No, you can't see it." In fairness, I'm impressed that they even got that far. How do you think the defense contractor lobbyists responded to that program?

Judgmentality 4y ago

You dare question the gatekeepers of our future AI overlords?

BbzzbB 4y ago

What are the odds they (OpenAI) keep their self-imposed returns capped at 100x? Is there a betting pool somewhere?

hhmc 4y ago
Returns on what?
- BbzzbB 4y ago
  Their investment, based on the first round. That's how they justified flip-flopping away from being an NPO[0]. If I had to bet, just as they pivoted from non-profit to capped-profit, they'll pivot from capped-profit to regular-for-profit when the time comes. Not that I have something against for-profits, but it all (name & mission) feels hypocritical and plain branding/marketing. 0: https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ https://openai.com/blog/openai-lp/ > Returns for our first round of investors are capped at 100x their investment (commensurate with the risks in front of us), and we expect this multiple to be lower for future rounds as we make further progress.
  - hhmc 4y ago
    I agree that it's pretty meaningless if you can just pivot at the appropriate time. Public benefit corporation feels like the best compromise.