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You’re already advanced then. Your claim about “within the first week” is a bit silly. I’ve used Linux on and off for the last 15-20 years. Just occasionally,

by cal85 4y ago

You’re already advanced then. Your claim about “within the first week” is a bit silly. I’ve used Linux on and off for the last 15-20 years. Just occasionally, to get certain things done in my development work. And I couldn’t tell you what any of those commands do (although I’ve probably used them a few times by copying and pasting). Advanced is subjective.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
I think I disagree. I stumbled on lspci specifically, because I built my new PC with dual gpu ( to use real gpu in VMs ). I do not consider myself an advanced user ( maybe intermediate ). I basically agree with OP. Advanced does mean advanced. It does not mean using couple of simple commands picked from one google search. To me it means being able to think a little beyond the basics and putting things together. Advanced is subjective, but we should not water it down to basically a list of basic commands...
jethro_tell 4y ago
It may be true that people don't need to use these commands in the first week. Still doesn't make them advanced. Perhaps intermediate but I think even that is a stretch. You can drive a car and never open the hood if you want. Opening the hood to change the oil still doesn't make you advanced in any way shape or form. Doing your own breaks is a step further but it's still pretty basic. Swapping your engine, is advanced, redoing your suspension is advanced. You can't just call using an oil pan and a wrench advanced because most people don't it.
- cal85 4y ago
  I’d settle for intermediate.
bayindirh 4y ago
I'm also using Linux for ~20 years, and used these commands periodically on my personal systems and at work daily. None of these commands are advanced. Yes, they might not be "very beginner level", but listing your partitions, PCI/USB/SCSI/FireWire devices, and learning other stuff about your system is not advanced level stuff. Most of these commands equals to right clicking something and opening "Properties" panel, nothing more. Parted is a partition editor though. You might wipe your system accidentally if you don't know what you're doing. The advanced stuff starts with interrupt tables, CPU frequency hysteresis settings, writing custom governors for cqufreqd or starting to isolate your services under cgroups for resource management. Edit: Just used lsblk & mount to see where a disk is and what filesystem it has, literally 3 minutes after writing this comment.
blown_gasket 4y ago
It depends on what the person was trying to accomplish in their first week of using Linux. Did they see a certification book for LPIC or Linux+ and get interested to go through it? They will for sure hit these commands in the first week of using Linux than. Using Linux for objectives that are not Linux administration you will probably not hit these commands. You probably won't be dealing with the partitioning of your hard disk if you use a graphical installer and let it partition things automatically. That knocks - fdisk, gparted, parted, lsblk, and blkid off the list. I wouldn't even expect someone that uses Linux as an alternative to Windows to use ps, netstat, or top. I would expect them to encounter the package management commands though: apt, pacman, yum, dnf.

by cal85 4y ago

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

I think I disagree. I stumbled on lspci specifically, because I built my new PC with dual gpu ( to use real gpu in VMs ). I do not consider myself an advanced user ( maybe intermediate ). I basically agree with OP. Advanced does mean advanced. It does not mean using couple of simple commands picked from one google search. To me it means being able to think a little beyond the basics and putting things together. Advanced is subjective, but we should not water it down to basically a list of basic commands...

jethro_tell 4y ago

It may be true that people don't need to use these commands in the first week. Still doesn't make them advanced. Perhaps intermediate but I think even that is a stretch. You can drive a car and never open the hood if you want. Opening the hood to change the oil still doesn't make you advanced in any way shape or form. Doing your own breaks is a step further but it's still pretty basic. Swapping your engine, is advanced, redoing your suspension is advanced. You can't just call using an oil pan and a wrench advanced because most people don't it.

cal85 4y ago
I’d settle for intermediate.

bayindirh 4y ago

I'm also using Linux for ~20 years, and used these commands periodically on my personal systems and at work daily. None of these commands are advanced. Yes, they might not be "very beginner level", but listing your partitions, PCI/USB/SCSI/FireWire devices, and learning other stuff about your system is not advanced level stuff. Most of these commands equals to right clicking something and opening "Properties" panel, nothing more. Parted is a partition editor though. You might wipe your system accidentally if you don't know what you're doing. The advanced stuff starts with interrupt tables, CPU frequency hysteresis settings, writing custom governors for cqufreqd or starting to isolate your services under cgroups for resource management. Edit: Just used lsblk & mount to see where a disk is and what filesystem it has, literally 3 minutes after writing this comment.

blown_gasket 4y ago

It depends on what the person was trying to accomplish in their first week of using Linux. Did they see a certification book for LPIC or Linux+ and get interested to go through it? They will for sure hit these commands in the first week of using Linux than. Using Linux for objectives that are not Linux administration you will probably not hit these commands. You probably won't be dealing with the partitioning of your hard disk if you use a graphical installer and let it partition things automatically. That knocks - fdisk, gparted, parted, lsblk, and blkid off the list. I wouldn't even expect someone that uses Linux as an alternative to Windows to use ps, netstat, or top. I would expect them to encounter the package management commands though: apt, pacman, yum, dnf.