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How does one get in touch with @VitalikButerin? How does one invite him to a podcast? I have interviewed Noam Chomsky and other political commentators, Sara Ha

by EGreg 4y ago

How does one get in touch with @VitalikButerin? How does one invite him to a podcast? I have interviewed Noam Chomsky and other political commentators, Sara Hanks from the SEC and other former regulators, Thomas Greco and other community currency economists (and by the way, we explicitly discussed Henry George and Progress and Poverty etc.) But when I spoke to Vitalik’s dad he explicitly said Vitalik asked him not to share any links with him and make no introductions. Vitalik prefers to discover stuff on his own. So how does he get on these podcasts? Everything Vitalik talks about, we have BUILT using his platform EVM (https://intercoin.org/applications https://intercoin.org/applications) and are now moving past it and blockchains, eg to build the Intercloud. The other week I spoke with Dyne about anonymous group signatures because we need them for voting, UBI and other applications where each person has to have exactly one account. I’ve spoken directly to the former and current CTOs of Ripple, the entire teams behind MaidSAFE, Cardano, and much more. Vitalik is the only one I was never able to get in touch with. He and his dad always talks about how the crypto space should build the kinds of things WE HAVE BUILT over the last 4 years. I know on HN some people just downvote anything related to crypto. But look at the link above — everything is open sourced and documented and being audited and we have a show explaining how it works. What is wrong with that? What is bad? There needs to be more POSITIVITY and COLLABORATION helping each other, rather than all this competition and shitting on each other. The end game should be open source software that helps communities of people self organize and get things done. We won’t achieve it if we keep being so divided and bickering, we’ll just live in an increasingly centrally planned world, with CBDCs and Big Tech mediating and controlling ALL OUR INTERACTIONS AND TRANSACTIONS. I am surprised that “Hacker News” is often so much in favor of the Web2 status quo of VC-funded Wall st-funded Big Tech, with their centralized server farms. Shouldn’t we be supporting hacking on new things? To the perennial silent downvoters: use your words, say something. Because as we get chat bot AI and Apple Glass and then Neuralink, everything is going to be more immersive and you’ll spend more time in these metaverses, the question of corporate control of the metaverses vs open source software will become ever more important. Do we want to be the Borg or do we want to be free?

smoldesu 4y ago
Vitalik has been selling the same dream for a decade now, and even though crypto is booming it still feels like we're no closer to realizing the goals of Ethereum or the virtues of a digital currency. Having listened to this guy rant about the Next Big Thing since high school, I'm pretty jaded by his opinion.
- jq-r 4y ago
  Tbh, cryptocurrencies are anything but booming.
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    The primary market, amongst crypto and other markets, are actually doing pretty well. Newly launched cryptos, newly launched NFTs*, teams that merely plan to do those things are getting funded, even bonds in the sovereign and corporate markets are being issued okay and bought up completely. Its just secondary market that's puking and plastered all over the charts everywhere. Doesn't tell you as much you think it does.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Primary markets will eat pig slop if you feed it to them, Y Combinator is living proof of that. If the demand for your product tanks in the secondary market, there's a very good chance that the product you're selling isn't very attractive to the layman. When I say crypto is doing "well", I mean so relatively. The markets are in agony right now, and many of the people who I know who have their life savings in crypto are getting wiped out. The primary market says nothing about how successful cryptocurrency is, just how lucrative it is. Getting someone to buy a worthless thing has a 100% markup, so it's unsurprising the market is still luring investors in with the promise of Yet Another Useless Token. My larger point is that cryptocurrency had it's chance, and people like Vitalik are the coffin bearers. This brand of economic accelerationism consistently ends in disaster, and crypto is just the same story told through a different lens. It's the Juicero of the 2020s, a concept so useless that it can only move units by fooling customers with insane marketing. Look around at NFT and cryptocurrency ads, you'll get the picture.

by EGreg 4y ago

smoldesu 4y ago

Vitalik has been selling the same dream for a decade now, and even though crypto is booming it still feels like we're no closer to realizing the goals of Ethereum or the virtues of a digital currency. Having listened to this guy rant about the Next Big Thing since high school, I'm pretty jaded by his opinion.

jq-r 4y ago
Tbh, cryptocurrencies are anything but booming.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  The primary market, amongst crypto and other markets, are actually doing pretty well. Newly launched cryptos, newly launched NFTs*, teams that merely plan to do those things are getting funded, even bonds in the sovereign and corporate markets are being issued okay and bought up completely. Its just secondary market that's puking and plastered all over the charts everywhere. Doesn't tell you as much you think it does.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Primary markets will eat pig slop if you feed it to them, Y Combinator is living proof of that. If the demand for your product tanks in the secondary market, there's a very good chance that the product you're selling isn't very attractive to the layman. When I say crypto is doing "well", I mean so relatively. The markets are in agony right now, and many of the people who I know who have their life savings in crypto are getting wiped out. The primary market says nothing about how successful cryptocurrency is, just how lucrative it is. Getting someone to buy a worthless thing has a 100% markup, so it's unsurprising the market is still luring investors in with the promise of Yet Another Useless Token. My larger point is that cryptocurrency had it's chance, and people like Vitalik are the coffin bearers. This brand of economic accelerationism consistently ends in disaster, and crypto is just the same story told through a different lens. It's the Juicero of the 2020s, a concept so useless that it can only move units by fooling customers with insane marketing. Look around at NFT and cryptocurrency ads, you'll get the picture.