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> Ethereum are making lots of people lose millions (if not) billions of dollars annually. 1) No one is making anyone do anything. 2) This comment is more appr

> Ethereum are making lots of people lose millions (if not) billions of dollars annually. 1) No one is making anyone do anything. 2) This comment is more appropriate for /r/buttcoin than HN

colesantiago 4y ago
- golergka 4y ago
  There's plenty of real world use cases. The fact that you insist that there are none says much more about you and amount effort you've spent on researching the topic that it does about crypto.
  - colesantiago 4y ago
    > There's plenty of real world use cases. Such as none? Since you have listed zero real world examples or usecases as usual.
- dubswithus 4y ago
  > 3) And the above is not an argument or a refutation. It's not meant to be either. Vitalik is an intellectual. Tyler Cowen says he is one of the more interesting writers that he has come across. That's a big endorsement. But your comment is really not interesting at all and just a general rehash of an old debate. There are hundreds of other threads on HN that would be appropriate for your comment. It just isn't this one.
  - colesantiago 4y ago
    > Vitalik is an intellectual. Tyler Cowen says he is one of the more interesting writers that he has come across. That's a big endorsement. Appeal to authority isn't an argument either, I don't really care what Tyler Cowen says about Vitalik. The whole point of a blockchain like Ethereum is that it's supposed to be immutable, with Vitalik's own actions in his role in the DAO hack, he has proven that it isn't at all. So what is new about Ethereum except that we know that it really isn't an immutable blockchain. The Merge? Nothing will change even once complete which I would estimate in 2026 for merchants to use. Gas fees? Ethereum will always have this issue even after the merge. So Ethereum is useless, just like the entire crypto space.
- meowkit 4y ago
  Don’t expect people to answer your question when it appears you have already decided what that answer is. Do your own research. There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases. A lot of the value derives from shifting your mental models away from traditional views of currency and monetary authority that are, frankly, outdated.
  - colesantiago 4y ago
    > Do your own research. There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases. Claim: "There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases." Response: "Please list these real world usecases of crypto that the average person can use right now." Claimant: "Do your own research." This is the problem that I see with most people who are in the crypto space, "Do your own research" is not a usecase and is in fact a veil to suggest that there is no usecase to begin with.

> Ethereum are making lots of people lose millions (if not) billions of dollars annually. 1) No one is making anyone do anything. 2) This comment is more appropriate for /r/buttcoin than HN

colesantiago 4y ago

golergka 4y ago
There's plenty of real world use cases. The fact that you insist that there are none says much more about you and amount effort you've spent on researching the topic that it does about crypto.
- colesantiago 4y ago
  > There's plenty of real world use cases. Such as none? Since you have listed zero real world examples or usecases as usual.
dubswithus 4y ago
> 3) And the above is not an argument or a refutation. It's not meant to be either. Vitalik is an intellectual. Tyler Cowen says he is one of the more interesting writers that he has come across. That's a big endorsement. But your comment is really not interesting at all and just a general rehash of an old debate. There are hundreds of other threads on HN that would be appropriate for your comment. It just isn't this one.
- colesantiago 4y ago
  > Vitalik is an intellectual. Tyler Cowen says he is one of the more interesting writers that he has come across. That's a big endorsement. Appeal to authority isn't an argument either, I don't really care what Tyler Cowen says about Vitalik. The whole point of a blockchain like Ethereum is that it's supposed to be immutable, with Vitalik's own actions in his role in the DAO hack, he has proven that it isn't at all. So what is new about Ethereum except that we know that it really isn't an immutable blockchain. The Merge? Nothing will change even once complete which I would estimate in 2026 for merchants to use. Gas fees? Ethereum will always have this issue even after the merge. So Ethereum is useless, just like the entire crypto space.
meowkit 4y ago
Don’t expect people to answer your question when it appears you have already decided what that answer is. Do your own research. There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases. A lot of the value derives from shifting your mental models away from traditional views of currency and monetary authority that are, frankly, outdated.
- colesantiago 4y ago
  > Do your own research. There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases. Claim: "There are plenty of current and hypothetical use cases." Response: "Please list these real world usecases of crypto that the average person can use right now." Claimant: "Do your own research." This is the problem that I see with most people who are in the crypto space, "Do your own research" is not a usecase and is in fact a veil to suggest that there is no usecase to begin with.