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Companies should at least commit to challenging this type of data collection in the court system. Also, the minute we agree with tech companies cooperating wit

by TimPC 4y ago

Companies should at least commit to challenging this type of data collection in the court system. Also, the minute we agree with tech companies cooperating with bad laws in the US we lose all moral basis for insisting they don't cooperate with bad laws in authoritarian regimes around the world. Do we really want to live in a world where we accept the idea that companies don't have moral obligations beyond "comply with local laws no matter how immoral"? It also means very little that Google and other companies are committing to provide out of state abortions if they are only willing to do so in a way that the insurance provider tracks and reimburses those expenses before handing them over to the state so you can be prosecuted for undergoing a medical procedure. This doesn't actually accomplish getting people safe access to abortion, it's theatre.

monkeybutton 4y ago
Corporations that pay employees below subsistence levels are indirectly bailed out by food stamps programs. I wouldn't depend on them for moral anything.
- maxerickson 4y ago
  Food stamps are a handout to Ag, not Walmart.
- gruez 4y ago
  >Corporations that pay employees below subsistence levels are indirectly bailed out by food stamps programs I never understood this argument. How are the corporations being "bailed out" in this case? The employees need sustenance regardless of whether they're employed or not. If anyone is getting "bailed out" it's the food stamp programs, because the programs are means tested and receiving income from employment reduces the amount of funds that need to be handed out.
tssva 4y ago
Yes, I want to live in a world where corporations' moral obligation is to comply with local laws of the countries they operate in no matter whether they agree with them or not. It should not be left up to corporations to pick and choose which laws they will comply with. If a corporation disagrees with the law in a particular country they either need to live with it, work to get the law changed through the legitimate means available in that country or stop operating in the country.

by TimPC 4y ago

monkeybutton 4y ago

Corporations that pay employees below subsistence levels are indirectly bailed out by food stamps programs. I wouldn't depend on them for moral anything.

maxerickson 4y ago
Food stamps are a handout to Ag, not Walmart.
gruez 4y ago
>Corporations that pay employees below subsistence levels are indirectly bailed out by food stamps programs I never understood this argument. How are the corporations being "bailed out" in this case? The employees need sustenance regardless of whether they're employed or not. If anyone is getting "bailed out" it's the food stamp programs, because the programs are means tested and receiving income from employment reduces the amount of funds that need to be handed out.

tssva 4y ago

Yes, I want to live in a world where corporations' moral obligation is to comply with local laws of the countries they operate in no matter whether they agree with them or not. It should not be left up to corporations to pick and choose which laws they will comply with. If a corporation disagrees with the law in a particular country they either need to live with it, work to get the law changed through the legitimate means available in that country or stop operating in the country.