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I can not relate to this. I found my first real job after university in a medium sized company (100-200 employees). This company is a truly in-office company by

by M0r13n 4y ago

I can not relate to this. I found my first real job after university in a medium sized company (100-200 employees). This company is a truly in-office company by heart. Before covid everybody had to go to the office. Working from home was not an option. Not even for one day. The whole culture was built around the in-person work experience. But due to covid everybody worked remote. So did I. I actually never met most of colleagues up until recently. But working remote was never an issue for me. On the contrary, my colleagues struggled with working remotely. I think thats because they are relatively old and never used messengers, mail, social media and co. to an extend as my generation (age <=25). I think that people that grew up in digital spheres are going to feel quite comfortable in a remote environment.

teraku 4y ago
I think it's just how the environment is set up. If the company sets you up for success in remote work, there might be some sub-optimal things, but it will work out. (Remember, not everything is perfect in the office as well). If the company does not accommodate for this properly, then you will fail. Experience will help you compensate for some of these shortcomings, but that will also only go so far.
koonsolo 4y ago
Let me make a bet here: You are self-taught in a lot of ways, and in your spare time also like to fool around with software development stuff. That's why you don't need hand holding. A lot of your peers do need hand holding to get stuff done. I'm a 43 year old developer, and I can work remotely without any issues. Partly because my development experience was always broader than my job alone.
- JCharante 4y ago
  > Partly because my development experience was always broader than my job alone. I think for some of us (and me) it's really hard to fully understand this. When I was in 10th grade I was going to local meetups where I first found out about Elm (they had beer too, I guess no one expects kids to show up to a meeting held in an office building at 7pm). I still can't understand the mindset of someone whose dev experience only being limited to their jobs, but I think you did a really great job at summarizing it.
yodsanklai 4y ago
> I think thats because they are relatively old and never used messengers, mail, social media and co. to an extend as my generation (age <=25). I don't know the age distribution at your company and their educational background, but a lot of people under 50 have been using such systems at least all of their adult life (esp. if they work in tech). Around 1995, internet started to become mainstream. And long before that, people were using BBS. Smartphone are newer though but I don't think they brought much to the equation. If anything, people became less tech-savvy after the emergence of smartphones.

by M0r13n 4y ago

teraku 4y ago

I think it's just how the environment is set up. If the company sets you up for success in remote work, there might be some sub-optimal things, but it will work out. (Remember, not everything is perfect in the office as well). If the company does not accommodate for this properly, then you will fail. Experience will help you compensate for some of these shortcomings, but that will also only go so far.

koonsolo 4y ago

Let me make a bet here: You are self-taught in a lot of ways, and in your spare time also like to fool around with software development stuff. That's why you don't need hand holding. A lot of your peers do need hand holding to get stuff done. I'm a 43 year old developer, and I can work remotely without any issues. Partly because my development experience was always broader than my job alone.

JCharante 4y ago
> Partly because my development experience was always broader than my job alone. I think for some of us (and me) it's really hard to fully understand this. When I was in 10th grade I was going to local meetups where I first found out about Elm (they had beer too, I guess no one expects kids to show up to a meeting held in an office building at 7pm). I still can't understand the mindset of someone whose dev experience only being limited to their jobs, but I think you did a really great job at summarizing it.

yodsanklai 4y ago

> I think thats because they are relatively old and never used messengers, mail, social media and co. to an extend as my generation (age <=25). I don't know the age distribution at your company and their educational background, but a lot of people under 50 have been using such systems at least all of their adult life (esp. if they work in tech). Around 1995, internet started to become mainstream. And long before that, people were using BBS. Smartphone are newer though but I don't think they brought much to the equation. If anything, people became less tech-savvy after the emergence of smartphones.