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> eat tablespoons of white sugar from pantry), a low carb (keto) diet You jumped from an extreme diet to the opposite. Some societies (mostly US) have a very u

> eat tablespoons of white sugar from pantry), a low carb (keto) diet You jumped from an extreme diet to the opposite. Some societies (mostly US) have a very unhealthy sugar addiction and it should be avoided. Equally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet is meant to ameliorate epilepsy and it's not a safe diet to be adopted without medical supervision or without a real need. It had been turned into an internet fad, like no-gluten diets and so on. Also, just because you feel better it does not mean something is healthy. EDIT: silent downvotes for saying this. Some cargoculting here...

malfist 4y ago
100% agree with you. If you listen to what food scientists are actually saying, they're almost always espousing fractional improvements with small tweaks to diets and the media runs with "You should stop eating X because Y" or "You should only eat Z" stories. Any dietitian will tell you, the key to a healthy diet is moderation and variety.
- itsoktocry 4y ago
  >If you listen to what food scientists are actually saying "The science" again. Food scientists say all kinds of things, including promoting vegetarian or ketogenic diets. Which ones are the true scientists here? >Any dietitian will tell you, the key to a healthy diet is moderation and variety. What does "moderation" and "variety" mean in scientific terms? Global nutritional availability varies drastically across the globe, and I'm not just talking about poor versus rich countries.
  - malfist 4y ago
    >Food scientists say all kinds of things, including promoting vegetarian or ketogenic diets. Which ones are the true scientists here? Sure, but look at what they publish professionally in journals. It's never black or white. Ignore what they talk about from a personal perspective to journalists or on TV, that stuff isn't peer reviewed. >What does "moderation" and "variety" mean in scientific terms? Global nutritional availability varies drastically across the globe, and I'm not just talking about poor versus rich countries. Come on dude, being obtuse isn't helpful. I'm not going to argue semantics with an internet stranger. If you can't figure out what moderation and variety mean in this context, I'm not sure you're worth arguing with.
itsoktocry 4y ago
>Equally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet is meant to ameliorate epilepsy and it's not a safe diet to be adopted without medical supervision or without a real need. So a ketogenic diet can affect a human body as drastically as controlling a specific debilitating disease, but has no other benefits (or, of course costs)? I find those sorts of claims really hard to believe.
- malfist 4y ago
  What are you going on about? I believe GP was specifically saying that there were costs associated with e ketogenic diet and that it shouldn't be done willynilly. And there are tons of things that control diseases that do jack shit for healthy people, or are even harmful. Antibiotics will control an infection, but if used in healthy people it'll kill your gut flora, stimulants that might help ADHD will absolutely fuck up a normal person, consistent use of PPIs without an underlying issue will unbalance your gut's acidity, cocaine is a great numbing agent and vasoconstrictor for nasal surgery, but we all know what happens to people using cocaine. All these examples ignore things like cancer drugs that control a disease, but will absolutely wreck your body. It's not like GP is saying the keto diet will help with epilespy and is side effect free. GP said it will help epilespy, and it might.

malfist 4y ago

100% agree with you. If you listen to what food scientists are actually saying, they're almost always espousing fractional improvements with small tweaks to diets and the media runs with "You should stop eating X because Y" or "You should only eat Z" stories. Any dietitian will tell you, the key to a healthy diet is moderation and variety.

itsoktocry 4y ago
>If you listen to what food scientists are actually saying "The science" again. Food scientists say all kinds of things, including promoting vegetarian or ketogenic diets. Which ones are the true scientists here? >Any dietitian will tell you, the key to a healthy diet is moderation and variety. What does "moderation" and "variety" mean in scientific terms? Global nutritional availability varies drastically across the globe, and I'm not just talking about poor versus rich countries.
- malfist 4y ago
  >Food scientists say all kinds of things, including promoting vegetarian or ketogenic diets. Which ones are the true scientists here? Sure, but look at what they publish professionally in journals. It's never black or white. Ignore what they talk about from a personal perspective to journalists or on TV, that stuff isn't peer reviewed. >What does "moderation" and "variety" mean in scientific terms? Global nutritional availability varies drastically across the globe, and I'm not just talking about poor versus rich countries. Come on dude, being obtuse isn't helpful. I'm not going to argue semantics with an internet stranger. If you can't figure out what moderation and variety mean in this context, I'm not sure you're worth arguing with.

itsoktocry 4y ago

>Equally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet is meant to ameliorate epilepsy and it's not a safe diet to be adopted without medical supervision or without a real need. So a ketogenic diet can affect a human body as drastically as controlling a specific debilitating disease, but has no other benefits (or, of course costs)? I find those sorts of claims really hard to believe.

malfist 4y ago
What are you going on about? I believe GP was specifically saying that there were costs associated with e ketogenic diet and that it shouldn't be done willynilly. And there are tons of things that control diseases that do jack shit for healthy people, or are even harmful. Antibiotics will control an infection, but if used in healthy people it'll kill your gut flora, stimulants that might help ADHD will absolutely fuck up a normal person, consistent use of PPIs without an underlying issue will unbalance your gut's acidity, cocaine is a great numbing agent and vasoconstrictor for nasal surgery, but we all know what happens to people using cocaine. All these examples ignore things like cancer drugs that control a disease, but will absolutely wreck your body. It's not like GP is saying the keto diet will help with epilespy and is side effect free. GP said it will help epilespy, and it might.