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what will that toxicity do to the surface web that is outside the 4chan/8chan universe?
by 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
what will that toxicity do to the surface web that is outside the 4chan/8chan universe?
- rob74 4y agoTo cite from the article (open letter? petition? whatever): > a community full of racist, sexist, xenophobic, and hateful speech that has been linked to white-supremacist violence such as the Buffalo shooting last month So the question is not what the toxicity does to the surface web, but what people influenced by it will do to other people.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agowhy not shut these websites down?
- sgjohnson 4y agowhy not shut down everything you don't personally approve of?
- w4ffl35 4y agofor some people that's the point of life
- bergenty 4y agoIt’s a violent community. It’s way past due.
- nyberg 4y agoJust because 4chan has a higher ratio within specific boards doesn't mean it's any worse than other places given that facebook/twitter which often reward cult-like behaviour and boosts calls to violence. The difference here is that with 4chan it's easier to see unpleasant behaviour given that the two containment boards are easily accessible and observable without much effort. Though take note that not all of the site is represented by those two boards and they are `containment boards`.
- sgjohnson 4y agoFurthermore, (I don't have any data on this, but) I'm willing to bet that Facebook's body count is much higher than 4chans, although by indirect means. How many people have commited suicide because of mental health issues directly attributable to Facebook? We don't have the data, but it's certainly a non-0 number.
- drcongo 4y agoYou don't think the toxicity of 4chan has ever leaked outside of 4chan? It's not just the web it leaks out into, it leaks out into real life and people die.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agoi know that. i know about all those "lone wolves" who have caused deaths to hundreds. my point is, why not shut these "hate factories" down in the first place? if piratebay admins can be jailed, why not these people? why are we "defending" free speech when we know its harmful?
- bdhcuidbebe 4y agoPirate bay admins are out of jail since long ago and the site is still up. Also, pirate bay never did anything harmful like 4chan, they just made some rich companies lose a little profit.
- sgjohnson 4y agobecause free speech includes potentially harmful speech and speech someone might find offensive.
- cowtools 4y agoIf you give up your freedom for safety, you will eventually have neither.
- w4ffl35 4y ago> It's not just the web it leaks out into, it leaks out into real life none of that requires AI
- drcongo 4y agoNobody said it did.