> No one loves it. huh, that's a big statement. I used to love java... I could write pretty much anything with it. Websites? sure, there's a ton of stuff for

> No one loves it. huh, that's a big statement. I used to love java... I could write pretty much anything with it. Websites? sure, there's a ton of stuff for that. Command line programs? that's the basic. GUI programs? pick between awt, swing and swt... and there was qt-jambi too! server programs? no problem. mobile apps? J2ME is nice! That was ~15 years ago... to say no one loved it seems a bit dumb, frankly.