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Collateral is great, although it only came out a few years after the 90s ended (2004). Since then it seems Tom Cruise has mostly been making sequels to Mission

Collateral is great, although it only came out a few years after the 90s ended (2004). Since then it seems Tom Cruise has mostly been making sequels to Mission Impossible and now Top Gun.

noufalibrahim 4y ago
Oh, I don't know. My respect for Cruise has gone up quite a bit. The MI series is formulaic but he does put a lot of effort and soul into his work. Top Gun was a slap in the face to formula films. Some of his smaller projects (like Jack Reacher) were fun to watch too. Collateral is an underrated classic though.
- chmod600 4y ago
  How was Top Gun an attack on formulaic films?
  - noufalibrahim 4y ago
    I felt that it went against several of the popular things in movies these days. It was comparatively low on CGI. It had a prominent male lead character without a female character supporting in the main plotline. Someone else mentioned on this discussion about Chinese funding. They took a decision than angered the investors there and, I believe, caused them to pull out https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/media/top-gun-maverick-taiwan-flag-reinstated-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/media/top-gun-maverick-ta... Maybe I'm overthinking it. I saw the first one as a kid and spent a lot of time doing dogfights with my toy planes since. The nostalgia hit me quite hard and it genuinely felt like a nice sequel which retained the macho 80s spirit of the original. I've never felt that with other modern movies.
    - actionfromafar 4y ago
      I think you are overthinking, a bit. IM is very formulaic, but maybe a dying breed of formulaic.
      - chmod600 4y ago
        Maybe it would be better to say that it bucks the trend of modern movies?
    - yourusername 4y ago
      >It was comparatively low on CGI That was the marketing line. There's CGI in almost every shot there are aircraft on screen.
    - throw0101a 4y ago
      > I felt that it went against several of the popular things in movies these days. It was comparatively low on CGI. Low-CGI / practical effects is part of the Tom Cruise formula though. You go to his movies to see him do crazy things (with a requisite running scene). Kind of like OG Jackie Chan movies: you watch them for his stunts.
    - philwelch 4y ago
      I sort of assumed Top Gun doubled back on appeasing the Chinese censors because the Chinese censors wouldn’t really be interested in a movie that glorifies the US military in the first place.
- glandium 4y ago
  Don't forget Oblivion and Edge of Tomorrow.
  - coldcode 4y ago
    Minority Report as well.
jsnell 4y ago
He's since done 6 sequels (4 x MI, 1 x Jack Reacher, 1 x Top Gun), and about 10 non-sequels (War of the Worlds, Lions for Lambs, Valkyrie, Knight and Day, Jack Reacher, Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow, The Mummy, American Made).

Collateral is great, although it only came out a few years after the 90s ended (2004). Since then it seems Tom Cruise has mostly been making sequels to Mission Impossible and now Top Gun.

noufalibrahim 4y ago

Oh, I don't know. My respect for Cruise has gone up quite a bit. The MI series is formulaic but he does put a lot of effort and soul into his work. Top Gun was a slap in the face to formula films. Some of his smaller projects (like Jack Reacher) were fun to watch too. Collateral is an underrated classic though.

chmod600 4y ago
How was Top Gun an attack on formulaic films?
- noufalibrahim 4y ago
  I felt that it went against several of the popular things in movies these days. It was comparatively low on CGI. It had a prominent male lead character without a female character supporting in the main plotline. Someone else mentioned on this discussion about Chinese funding. They took a decision than angered the investors there and, I believe, caused them to pull out https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/media/top-gun-maverick-taiwan-flag-reinstated-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/media/top-gun-maverick-ta... Maybe I'm overthinking it. I saw the first one as a kid and spent a lot of time doing dogfights with my toy planes since. The nostalgia hit me quite hard and it genuinely felt like a nice sequel which retained the macho 80s spirit of the original. I've never felt that with other modern movies.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    I think you are overthinking, a bit. IM is very formulaic, but maybe a dying breed of formulaic.
    - chmod600 4y ago
      Maybe it would be better to say that it bucks the trend of modern movies?
  - yourusername 4y ago
    >It was comparatively low on CGI That was the marketing line. There's CGI in almost every shot there are aircraft on screen.
  - throw0101a 4y ago
    > I felt that it went against several of the popular things in movies these days. It was comparatively low on CGI. Low-CGI / practical effects is part of the Tom Cruise formula though. You go to his movies to see him do crazy things (with a requisite running scene). Kind of like OG Jackie Chan movies: you watch them for his stunts.
  - philwelch 4y ago
    I sort of assumed Top Gun doubled back on appeasing the Chinese censors because the Chinese censors wouldn’t really be interested in a movie that glorifies the US military in the first place.
glandium 4y ago
Don't forget Oblivion and Edge of Tomorrow.
- coldcode 4y ago
  Minority Report as well.

jsnell 4y ago

He's since done 6 sequels (4 x MI, 1 x Jack Reacher, 1 x Top Gun), and about 10 non-sequels (War of the Worlds, Lions for Lambs, Valkyrie, Knight and Day, Jack Reacher, Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow, The Mummy, American Made).