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"The best treatment for cancer is the one that works for you" "The best way to change your oil is the one that works for your car" Come on.

andreareina 4y ago
The difference is that for weight loss they basically all work (to the extent that they reduce calories). So "what works for you" translates to "what lets you consume X calories with less mental effort".
StanislavPetrov 4y ago
Both of the above statements are true, which anyone who is an expert in the field of cancer treatment or automotives will be happy to explain. Cancers, like automobiles (and most everything else), vary widely, and have different optimal courses of treatment for the ideal outcome.
mhh__ 4y ago
The best knife sharpening method is the one you actually do. This isn't about efficacy but rather sticking to it. A diet you hate is, just that, a diet not a change in lifestyle.
- caminante 4y ago
  I don't think the parent would disagree with your qualification of "best." The point is that the GP left out the nuance you raised regarding "better [than nothing]" as "good enough".
heywoodlh 4y ago
Are you implying that there isn't nuance in diet from person to person? i.e. low-carb diets works for everyone? Oil in cars and cancer treatments you don't really have choices but there are many choices for diets. On top of that, in my experience some people's bodies have different affinities or intolerances (i.e. lactose intolerance). I feel like I agree with the original sentiment that diets can vary from person to person. Am I wrong, though?
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  > Are you implying that there isn't nuance in diet from person to person? Obviously they aren't "implying" any of that. But you know that and hence you made up this ridiculous straw man. So, yes, you are wrong and dishonest.
  - heywoodlh 4y ago
    I was actually sincerely wondering if there is information indicating that low-carbing works for everyone. I apologize for coming off like I was looking for a straw man.
Broken_Hippo 4y ago
The best way to change your oil is the one that works for your car" Which changes depending on your car, and standards have changed over time - in no small part because they wanted to sell more oil and filters (like selling diet food to folks) and you might not even need one if you have an electric and you might need more oil changes if you have a diesel engine. It doesn't mean that you should apply a one-size-fits-all to your car, it is just going to be off. Not only that, but a lot of folks go well past the recommendations and rarely change oil and they at least get by. Doing it sometimes is better than none at all. Yeah, I can understand the analogy. It still is lacking a bit, but it works well enough. There is no one size fits all in diets, and you'll need to do the one that works for you and your situation, kinda like doing the oil change that is right for the car you have. Unfortunately, I don't think this is the sort of analysis that you intended.
- eldenwrong 4y ago
  Sorry but that doesn't come from feelings.
  - Broken_Hippo 4y ago
    I'm not entirely certain what you are referring to at all? What feelings?

andreareina 4y ago

The difference is that for weight loss they basically all work (to the extent that they reduce calories). So "what works for you" translates to "what lets you consume X calories with less mental effort".

StanislavPetrov 4y ago

Both of the above statements are true, which anyone who is an expert in the field of cancer treatment or automotives will be happy to explain. Cancers, like automobiles (and most everything else), vary widely, and have different optimal courses of treatment for the ideal outcome.

mhh__ 4y ago

The best knife sharpening method is the one you actually do. This isn't about efficacy but rather sticking to it. A diet you hate is, just that, a diet not a change in lifestyle.

caminante 4y ago
I don't think the parent would disagree with your qualification of "best." The point is that the GP left out the nuance you raised regarding "better [than nothing]" as "good enough".

heywoodlh 4y ago

Are you implying that there isn't nuance in diet from person to person? i.e. low-carb diets works for everyone? Oil in cars and cancer treatments you don't really have choices but there are many choices for diets. On top of that, in my experience some people's bodies have different affinities or intolerances (i.e. lactose intolerance). I feel like I agree with the original sentiment that diets can vary from person to person. Am I wrong, though?

diffeomorphism 4y ago
> Are you implying that there isn't nuance in diet from person to person? Obviously they aren't "implying" any of that. But you know that and hence you made up this ridiculous straw man. So, yes, you are wrong and dishonest.
- heywoodlh 4y ago
  I was actually sincerely wondering if there is information indicating that low-carbing works for everyone. I apologize for coming off like I was looking for a straw man.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

The best way to change your oil is the one that works for your car" Which changes depending on your car, and standards have changed over time - in no small part because they wanted to sell more oil and filters (like selling diet food to folks) and you might not even need one if you have an electric and you might need more oil changes if you have a diesel engine. It doesn't mean that you should apply a one-size-fits-all to your car, it is just going to be off. Not only that, but a lot of folks go well past the recommendations and rarely change oil and they at least get by. Doing it sometimes is better than none at all. Yeah, I can understand the analogy. It still is lacking a bit, but it works well enough. There is no one size fits all in diets, and you'll need to do the one that works for you and your situation, kinda like doing the oil change that is right for the car you have. Unfortunately, I don't think this is the sort of analysis that you intended.

eldenwrong 4y ago
Sorry but that doesn't come from feelings.
- Broken_Hippo 4y ago
  I'm not entirely certain what you are referring to at all? What feelings?