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I imagine if the headline news declared that we should reduce the carbs in our diets, most Americans would up the meat intake and not vegetables, and that would

by mertd 4y ago

I imagine if the headline news declared that we should reduce the carbs in our diets, most Americans would up the meat intake and not vegetables, and that would reduce fiber in their diet even more.

eru 4y ago
Perhaps remove the government from these recommendations altogether? Don't they have more important things to do?
- Bilal_io 4y ago
  > Don't they have more important things to do? Like caring about the well being of the citizens?
  - landemva 4y ago
    How has that government caring worked out over the past five decades of ballooning BMI and heart disease? Should we double down on government caring for us, or admit defeat and defund government food recommendations?
  - eru 4y ago
    Causal connection between that and writing recommendations is rather weak..
  - odiroot 4y ago
    They would be banning sugary drinks altogether, if they actually cared.
  - eldenwrong 4y ago
- thebigspacefuck 4y ago
  It could change which crops are subsidized. Imagine if broccoli were subsidized as much as corn.
  - eru 4y ago
    I'd rather imagine corn not being subsidized..
RelaxedTree 4y ago
I am not sure. I think it’s hard to tell if that would happen. A lot of low carb and keto processed foods on the market today are normally very high fibre and are more convenient to consume than making low carb meals at home which would have a reduction of fibre in comparison. However, I personally cannot eat fibrous foods. I’ve had to cut that completely out as a result of the damage fibre has done to my bowels after years “healthy” eating. I am not alone in this either as there was even a clinical trial that studied the effects of fibre on patients with idiopathic constipation and the results were highly statistically significant in that it showed causation between the consumption of fibre and increased risk of bowel related illnesses. This is not an epidemiological study either that only shows correlation! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > I am not sure. I think it’s hard to tell if that would happen. I’ve been on Keto for close to ten years, my impression of at least the keto subreddit is that this would certainly happen. They’ve always been highly resistant to any statement that tons of meat is not the best thing. It was not great at the start, but it got worse over time where apparently almost everyone starting now needs electrolyte supplements because their dietary intake sucks. /rant Sorry, I simply regularly get annoyed how a (for me) amazing diet gets dragged into the mud by the people of that sub.
- sandos 4y ago
  There are lots of different fibres with different functions, and I have ended up on eating a supplement that mostly lets the stool keep is moisture content, and I have not been constipated once since I started with it: hydrolysed guar gum. This way I can avoid other fibres which are horrible to my gut. I used to try eating fibre to keep from getting constipated, but often I happened to eat some fibre that instead gave me extremely runny stool.
oifjsidjf 4y ago
A lot of success that carnivores have is attributed precisely to the removal of fiber, so fiber seems to be giving some people severe issues. Whether one should stay on the carnivore diet forever is ofcourse a different thing, but fiber is not an innocent thing as people say (at least for people in certain state, god knows what is going on in their intestines which causes them bloating etc.. after eating fiber). Also don't forget that the Inuit (eskimos) hardly eat any fiber at all and they end up living a normal life.
- dawnerd 4y ago
  Easing into higher fiber probably should be more gradual. A lot of people doing keto jump right into the processed breads and foods that have mostly fiber. That’ll catch you off guard very quickly if you’re not used to it.

by mertd 4y ago

I imagine if the headline news declared that we should reduce the carbs in our diets, most Americans would up the meat intake and not vegetables, and that would reduce fiber in their diet even more.

eru 4y ago

Perhaps remove the government from these recommendations altogether? Don't they have more important things to do?

Bilal_io 4y ago
> Don't they have more important things to do? Like caring about the well being of the citizens?
- landemva 4y ago
  How has that government caring worked out over the past five decades of ballooning BMI and heart disease? Should we double down on government caring for us, or admit defeat and defund government food recommendations?
- eru 4y ago
  Causal connection between that and writing recommendations is rather weak..
- odiroot 4y ago
  They would be banning sugary drinks altogether, if they actually cared.
- eldenwrong 4y ago
thebigspacefuck 4y ago
It could change which crops are subsidized. Imagine if broccoli were subsidized as much as corn.
- eru 4y ago
  I'd rather imagine corn not being subsidized..

RelaxedTree 4y ago

I am not sure. I think it’s hard to tell if that would happen. A lot of low carb and keto processed foods on the market today are normally very high fibre and are more convenient to consume than making low carb meals at home which would have a reduction of fibre in comparison. However, I personally cannot eat fibrous foods. I’ve had to cut that completely out as a result of the damage fibre has done to my bowels after years “healthy” eating. I am not alone in this either as there was even a clinical trial that studied the effects of fibre on patients with idiopathic constipation and the results were highly statistically significant in that it showed causation between the consumption of fibre and increased risk of bowel related illnesses. This is not an epidemiological study either that only shows correlation! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/

Semaphor 4y ago
> I am not sure. I think it’s hard to tell if that would happen. I’ve been on Keto for close to ten years, my impression of at least the keto subreddit is that this would certainly happen. They’ve always been highly resistant to any statement that tons of meat is not the best thing. It was not great at the start, but it got worse over time where apparently almost everyone starting now needs electrolyte supplements because their dietary intake sucks. /rant Sorry, I simply regularly get annoyed how a (for me) amazing diet gets dragged into the mud by the people of that sub.
sandos 4y ago
There are lots of different fibres with different functions, and I have ended up on eating a supplement that mostly lets the stool keep is moisture content, and I have not been constipated once since I started with it: hydrolysed guar gum. This way I can avoid other fibres which are horrible to my gut. I used to try eating fibre to keep from getting constipated, but often I happened to eat some fibre that instead gave me extremely runny stool.

oifjsidjf 4y ago

A lot of success that carnivores have is attributed precisely to the removal of fiber, so fiber seems to be giving some people severe issues. Whether one should stay on the carnivore diet forever is ofcourse a different thing, but fiber is not an innocent thing as people say (at least for people in certain state, god knows what is going on in their intestines which causes them bloating etc.. after eating fiber). Also don't forget that the Inuit (eskimos) hardly eat any fiber at all and they end up living a normal life.

dawnerd 4y ago
Easing into higher fiber probably should be more gradual. A lot of people doing keto jump right into the processed breads and foods that have mostly fiber. That’ll catch you off guard very quickly if you’re not used to it.