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An AI drew my picture

39 points by willswire 4y ago

Pakdef 4y ago
I think that the pen quality could be improved
- willswire 4y ago
  The artist actually has a note about his pen choice I found quite interesting: “Spectators often ask about the Bic biro and if there are motivations for their use in the installation, there are a number of reasons. When making a mark is it not black, it is dark gray, it is only the layering of traces which will create black, this enables a variety of tones and textures. The biro is a very reliable and predictable tool, pigmented and other felt pen dry and get dirty only being functional for a few hours, a Bic can draw for 3 days 10 hours a day without monitoring. Since 1950 the “stylo Bic” has seen minutes changes, it is recognised a very french iconic design. It reminds me of childhood, of the drawings and doodles scribbled in notebooks in primary and later schools, for me it is when drawing as a practice begun.” More here: https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/
O__________O 4y ago
(2011-2022)
- raldi 4y ago
  ?
  - O__________O 4y ago
    “They have been produced since 2011“ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ “Jun 27, 2022” https://mobile.twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541223535481425921 https://mobile.twitter.com/wills_wire/status/154122353548142...
    - raldi 4y ago
      My reply was addressed at your original unedited "(2015)" comment.
      - O__________O 4y ago
        Oops, thanks, the “2015” was the first date I found via the embed Vimeo from another comment. The meaning of you’re “?” wasn’t obvious, thought you just didn’t understand HN headline notations.
riebschlager 4y ago
You can read more about this piece here: https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/
raldi 4y ago
Can we see the three results?
- willswire 4y ago
  Sure! Here ya go: https://twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541267970005114880 https://twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541267970005114880
bigyikes 4y ago
Not that pen plotting and image vectorization isn’t cool, but where is the AI?
- willswire 4y ago
  Touché! I have to admit I assumed there was some level of data modeling/intelligence happening under the hood, but after reading the comments I now realize I was mistaken. I suppose a more accurate title would be “a robot drew my picture”
  - MarcoZavala 4y ago
- O__________O 4y ago
  Agree, have not been able to find anything that indicates system is using any form of AI such as genetic algorithms, machine learning, etc. Even the artist when directly asked if it is AI related appears to answer that it is not; though oddly they repeatedly refer to it as being AI-based in their official artist statements. Here’s the excerpt from the interview were the artist states it is not AI: “Interviewer: Would it be fair to call this process artificial intelligence? Tresset: The term artificial intelligence is meaningless, or more precisely its meaning is fluctuating. Some people qualify this as artificial intelligence, I would not. I prefer to consider AI as a field of research, not as a thing.” Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-digital-self/201703/the-artistic-side-artificial-intelligence?amp https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-digital-self/201...
  - CodeBeater 4y ago
    His replies make me reminisce the good old days when digital TV was first introduced in my native Brazil all the way back in 2007. It was most people's first contact with actual HD video (remember, DVD's were king back in the day with a resolution of 720x480). Suddenly, everything needed to be "digital"! You saw combination front-door locks being rebranded as "digital locks", ovens with a timer function being rebranded as "digital ovens", motion sensing faucets being sold as "digital faucets" (although this one specifically felt more like a hail mary to get those insufferable things some traction in the home market). You get the idea, any old regular household item that they could stick a piezo buzzer in there was trying to surf the hype wave. But my all time favorite was when they tried to rebrand video doorbells as "digital doorman's", which is ironic because it relied on 100% analog composite video. lol. The same thing happened again when Avatar (the movie) sparked the resurgence of 3D movies, with some companies being as desperate as releasing "3D White" toothpaste into the market. Fun times.
seba_dos1 4y ago
Made me think of our old student project - a drawing robot with CD-ROM tray mechanism that handled a marker pen and drove on a piece of paper with stepper motors and toy wheels, drawing arbitrary vector images: https://youtu.be/GWRNpv_topQ?t=50 https://youtu.be/GWRNpv_topQ?t=50 It took it a while to draw anything though, and you had to be super careful to not pull on its cables while it was working as that would destroy the drawing - it had no way to orient itself in space whatsoever :)
- blip54321 4y ago
  OT: The terminal on your web page is broken. I type and nothing happens.
nhinck 4y ago
I was actually hoping for "an AI that drew someones picture" and not "an AI drew a picture of me"
sydthrowaway 4y ago
This a huge yawn
__alias 4y ago
An AI printed a phone mount for me... I used a 3D printer.
mensetmanusman 4y ago
“ Will Walker @wills_wire · 55m I have to admit I assumed there was some level of data modeling/intelligence happening under the hood, but after reading the comments I now realize I was mistaken. I suppose a more accurate title would be “a robot drew my picture” “

39 points by willswire 4y ago

Pakdef 4y ago

I think that the pen quality could be improved

willswire 4y ago
The artist actually has a note about his pen choice I found quite interesting: “Spectators often ask about the Bic biro and if there are motivations for their use in the installation, there are a number of reasons. When making a mark is it not black, it is dark gray, it is only the layering of traces which will create black, this enables a variety of tones and textures. The biro is a very reliable and predictable tool, pigmented and other felt pen dry and get dirty only being functional for a few hours, a Bic can draw for 3 days 10 hours a day without monitoring. Since 1950 the “stylo Bic” has seen minutes changes, it is recognised a very french iconic design. It reminds me of childhood, of the drawings and doodles scribbled in notebooks in primary and later schools, for me it is when drawing as a practice begun.” More here: https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/

O__________O 4y ago

(2011-2022)

raldi 4y ago
?
- O__________O 4y ago
  “They have been produced since 2011“ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ “Jun 27, 2022” https://mobile.twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541223535481425921 https://mobile.twitter.com/wills_wire/status/154122353548142...
  - raldi 4y ago
    My reply was addressed at your original unedited "(2015)" comment.
    - O__________O 4y ago
      Oops, thanks, the “2015” was the first date I found via the embed Vimeo from another comment. The meaning of you’re “?” wasn’t obvious, thought you just didn’t understand HN headline notations.

riebschlager 4y ago

You can read more about this piece here: https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/ https://patricktresset.com/new/project/5-rnp/

raldi 4y ago

Can we see the three results?

willswire 4y ago
Sure! Here ya go: https://twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541267970005114880 https://twitter.com/wills_wire/status/1541267970005114880

bigyikes 4y ago

Not that pen plotting and image vectorization isn’t cool, but where is the AI?

willswire 4y ago
Touché! I have to admit I assumed there was some level of data modeling/intelligence happening under the hood, but after reading the comments I now realize I was mistaken. I suppose a more accurate title would be “a robot drew my picture”
- MarcoZavala 4y ago
O__________O 4y ago
Agree, have not been able to find anything that indicates system is using any form of AI such as genetic algorithms, machine learning, etc. Even the artist when directly asked if it is AI related appears to answer that it is not; though oddly they repeatedly refer to it as being AI-based in their official artist statements. Here’s the excerpt from the interview were the artist states it is not AI: “Interviewer: Would it be fair to call this process artificial intelligence? Tresset: The term artificial intelligence is meaningless, or more precisely its meaning is fluctuating. Some people qualify this as artificial intelligence, I would not. I prefer to consider AI as a field of research, not as a thing.” Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-digital-self/201703/the-artistic-side-artificial-intelligence?amp https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-digital-self/201...
- CodeBeater 4y ago
  His replies make me reminisce the good old days when digital TV was first introduced in my native Brazil all the way back in 2007. It was most people's first contact with actual HD video (remember, DVD's were king back in the day with a resolution of 720x480). Suddenly, everything needed to be "digital"! You saw combination front-door locks being rebranded as "digital locks", ovens with a timer function being rebranded as "digital ovens", motion sensing faucets being sold as "digital faucets" (although this one specifically felt more like a hail mary to get those insufferable things some traction in the home market). You get the idea, any old regular household item that they could stick a piezo buzzer in there was trying to surf the hype wave. But my all time favorite was when they tried to rebrand video doorbells as "digital doorman's", which is ironic because it relied on 100% analog composite video. lol. The same thing happened again when Avatar (the movie) sparked the resurgence of 3D movies, with some companies being as desperate as releasing "3D White" toothpaste into the market. Fun times.

seba_dos1 4y ago

Made me think of our old student project - a drawing robot with CD-ROM tray mechanism that handled a marker pen and drove on a piece of paper with stepper motors and toy wheels, drawing arbitrary vector images: https://youtu.be/GWRNpv_topQ?t=50 https://youtu.be/GWRNpv_topQ?t=50 It took it a while to draw anything though, and you had to be super careful to not pull on its cables while it was working as that would destroy the drawing - it had no way to orient itself in space whatsoever :)

blip54321 4y ago
OT: The terminal on your web page is broken. I type and nothing happens.

nhinck 4y ago

I was actually hoping for "an AI that drew someones picture" and not "an AI drew a picture of me"

sydthrowaway 4y ago

This a huge yawn

__alias 4y ago

An AI printed a phone mount for me... I used a 3D printer.

mensetmanusman 4y ago

“ Will Walker @wills_wire · 55m I have to admit I assumed there was some level of data modeling/intelligence happening under the hood, but after reading the comments I now realize I was mistaken. I suppose a more accurate title would be “a robot drew my picture” “