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It's crazy because even slightly heavier Linux distros run smooth as butter on laptops that Windows chugs resources on. There's nothing fancier about Windows. T

It's crazy because even slightly heavier Linux distros run smooth as butter on laptops that Windows chugs resources on. There's nothing fancier about Windows. There's literally no reason for it to be as poorly optimized as it is, and yet it is. It's crazy to me.

ticviking 4y ago
The reason is simple. It doesn’t impact Microsoft’s bottom line. Poor Linux performance will eventually annoy someone enough to fix it, and being open source they actually can fix it
- beachy 4y ago
  It actually negatively impacts Microsoft's bottom line. A slow machine means a new PC purchased which usually means a new Windows licence, so there are negative incentives on Microsoft to improve Windows performance.
  - tomschwiha 4y ago
    Or they switch to Apple and Microsoft is completely missing out on a customer.
thejosh 4y ago
Also the opposite end, with many CPU cores/threads such as the threadripper (2990wx, which is 32c/64 threads). It doesn't work under Windows 10 well at all, even with crazy hacks like coreprio https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/ https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/. I've found Windows 11 out of the box works just as well as Linux. I never really need to dualboot Windows (I don't play as many games these days), but W11 looks like a lot of hard work has gone into making the scheduler and other tools work well. It's just a shame their UI is absolute garbage.
- iamevn 4y ago
  For me, W11 seems to have really messed things up with the scheduler. If I'm playing just about any game on my primary monitor, I can't leave a media player window or a browser window with youtube on the second monitor because Windows starves the (visible!) unfocused window if the focused one is using lots of resources. This makes the YouTube video I want to watch in the background stutter like crazy and often completely freeze until I refocus the window. With games that support a gamepad and accept input while not focused, I've started leaving a browser window focused so that it gets correctly scheduled with essentially no noticable impact on the game.
  - MonaroVXR 4y ago
    There's a setting called game mode, turn that off.
    - iamevn 4y ago
      That doesn't appear to help for me.
- dotnet00 4y ago
  Even if you did play a lot more games, Steam's Proton has come a really long way, for most of my library playing Windows games under Linux is seamless now and almost seamless in VR too.

ticviking 4y ago

The reason is simple. It doesn’t impact Microsoft’s bottom line. Poor Linux performance will eventually annoy someone enough to fix it, and being open source they actually can fix it

beachy 4y ago
It actually negatively impacts Microsoft's bottom line. A slow machine means a new PC purchased which usually means a new Windows licence, so there are negative incentives on Microsoft to improve Windows performance.
- tomschwiha 4y ago
  Or they switch to Apple and Microsoft is completely missing out on a customer.

thejosh 4y ago

Also the opposite end, with many CPU cores/threads such as the threadripper (2990wx, which is 32c/64 threads). It doesn't work under Windows 10 well at all, even with crazy hacks like coreprio https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/ https://bitsum.com/portfolio/coreprio/. I've found Windows 11 out of the box works just as well as Linux. I never really need to dualboot Windows (I don't play as many games these days), but W11 looks like a lot of hard work has gone into making the scheduler and other tools work well. It's just a shame their UI is absolute garbage.

iamevn 4y ago
For me, W11 seems to have really messed things up with the scheduler. If I'm playing just about any game on my primary monitor, I can't leave a media player window or a browser window with youtube on the second monitor because Windows starves the (visible!) unfocused window if the focused one is using lots of resources. This makes the YouTube video I want to watch in the background stutter like crazy and often completely freeze until I refocus the window. With games that support a gamepad and accept input while not focused, I've started leaving a browser window focused so that it gets correctly scheduled with essentially no noticable impact on the game.
- MonaroVXR 4y ago
  There's a setting called game mode, turn that off.
  - iamevn 4y ago
    That doesn't appear to help for me.
dotnet00 4y ago
Even if you did play a lot more games, Steam's Proton has come a really long way, for most of my library playing Windows games under Linux is seamless now and almost seamless in VR too.