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I ask because it should be considered when deciding how far into a pregnancy an abortion is allowed

by Pakdef 4y ago

NikolaNovak 4y ago
Note the extremely crucial "typically" part. Depending on age health genetics fitness diet etc, periods may be more or less regular, more or less frequent, more or less obvious in various ways. Similarly absence of period may or may not be noticed, and may or may not in itself be various degree of normal. Person may it may not have access money and ability to use a pregnancy test. Pregnancy test may have certain range of confidence and accuracy. Person may need any amount of time to make a decision and set up logistics. (That is assuming we are even contemplating ordering a woman to sacrifice her own body and health for somebody else, which I am not. But figured you should have specific answer to your specific question :)
- cratermoon 4y ago
  > Note the extremely crucial "typically" part. That's best case, in fact. For states that have (or had) a so-called "heartbeat"[1] abortion restriction, which outlaws terminating the pregnancy after six weeks, a woman may only have days to decide and act. And that's if everything works perfectly. The six-week ban is a de facto complete ban because so few women even know they are pregnant before six weeks. 1 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/07/abortion-the-guardian-style-guide https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/07/abortion-the-g...
yuppie_scum 4y ago
I hope your wife, sister or daughter never has an ectopic pregnancy
- Pakdef 4y ago
  Of course it probably shouldn't be the only criteria...
moistly 4y ago
Abortions must be allowed right through to the last days of pregnancy, because something can always go wrong. If you care enough to learn more about pregnancy, you’ll easily enough find stories about dead late-term fetuses and women who have died because the thing went septic and anti-abortion laws prevented doctors from removing the rot. By the way, Canada has literally no laws regarding abortion, other than that it’s legal. Surprise, surprise, it isn’t a problem because (a) women aren’t typically psychopaths who rejoice in killing their late-term fetus and (b) doctors aren’t psychopaths who willy-nilly hack out late-term fetuses just for kicks.
Arnt 4y ago
Abortions don't happen in typical pregancies, they mostly happen in unusual ones. Different kinds of unusual pregnancies. You could look at the most common clusters and ask the question of those, and the answer varies, a lot. But if you look at those cluster, I don't think you'd be eager to set limits specific to any of them. There's one, for example, where the pregnancy is nearly always discovered very quickly: Couples who want children, try to conceive and eventually get some sort of medical help. Those pregnancies are discovered reliably and early. But then, when the treatment works if often works so well that there are twins or even triplets, and the reasons that made conception difficult in the first place often affect carrying triplets to a successful birth. Aborting one of the three would improve the chances for the other two, and the mother. Would you set a time limit at all? Remember: Any constraint you put on that is going to lead to couples not getting the help they want, because the clinic's going to tell some couples that the risk of needing an abortion is too high to even start fertility treatment. And this is a type of abortion where setting a limit is fairly simple — the pregnancies are discovered early and there's medical supervision from day 0. Other common types of abortions are more difficult.

I ask because it should be considered when deciding how far into a pregnancy an abortion is allowed

by Pakdef 4y ago

I ask because it should be considered when deciding how far into a pregnancy an abortion is allowed

Note the extremely crucial "typically" part. Depending on age health genetics fitness diet etc, periods may be more or less regular, more or less frequent, more or less obvious in various ways. Similarly absence of period may or may not be noticed, and may or may not in itself be various degree of normal. Person may it may not have access money and ability to use a pregnancy test. Pregnancy test may have certain range of confidence and accuracy. Person may need any amount of time to make a decision and set up logistics. (That is assuming we are even contemplating ordering a woman to sacrifice her own body and health for somebody else, which I am not. But figured you should have specific answer to your specific question :)

cratermoon 4y ago
> Note the extremely crucial "typically" part. That's best case, in fact. For states that have (or had) a so-called "heartbeat"[1] abortion restriction, which outlaws terminating the pregnancy after six weeks, a woman may only have days to decide and act. And that's if everything works perfectly. The six-week ban is a de facto complete ban because so few women even know they are pregnant before six weeks. 1 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/07/abortion-the-guardian-style-guide https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/07/abortion-the-g...

yuppie_scum 4y ago

I hope your wife, sister or daughter never has an ectopic pregnancy

Pakdef 4y ago
Of course it probably shouldn't be the only criteria...

moistly 4y ago

Abortions must be allowed right through to the last days of pregnancy, because something can always go wrong. If you care enough to learn more about pregnancy, you’ll easily enough find stories about dead late-term fetuses and women who have died because the thing went septic and anti-abortion laws prevented doctors from removing the rot. By the way, Canada has literally no laws regarding abortion, other than that it’s legal. Surprise, surprise, it isn’t a problem because (a) women aren’t typically psychopaths who rejoice in killing their late-term fetus and (b) doctors aren’t psychopaths who willy-nilly hack out late-term fetuses just for kicks.

Arnt 4y ago

Abortions don't happen in typical pregancies, they mostly happen in unusual ones. Different kinds of unusual pregnancies. You could look at the most common clusters and ask the question of those, and the answer varies, a lot. But if you look at those cluster, I don't think you'd be eager to set limits specific to any of them. There's one, for example, where the pregnancy is nearly always discovered very quickly: Couples who want children, try to conceive and eventually get some sort of medical help. Those pregnancies are discovered reliably and early. But then, when the treatment works if often works so well that there are twins or even triplets, and the reasons that made conception difficult in the first place often affect carrying triplets to a successful birth. Aborting one of the three would improve the chances for the other two, and the mother. Would you set a time limit at all? Remember: Any constraint you put on that is going to lead to couples not getting the help they want, because the clinic's going to tell some couples that the risk of needing an abortion is too high to even start fertility treatment. And this is a type of abortion where setting a limit is fairly simple — the pregnancies are discovered early and there's medical supervision from day 0. Other common types of abortions are more difficult.