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At 39 weeks the woman has known she has been pregnant for some time and intends to keep the baby. If an abortion happens at this point, it's an incredibly traum

by feet 4y ago

At 39 weeks the woman has known she has been pregnant for some time and intends to keep the baby. If an abortion happens at this point, it's an incredibly traumatic experience because something with the pregnancy has gone extremely wrong. You present a useless hypothetical that does nothing to advance the conversation. You're repeating a useless point that does nothing besides distract from the issues of the bodily autonomy of women, its disingenuous

yucky 4y ago
Well, where would you draw the line? You can't just pretend it never happens since we know it does. And even if you want to pretend it would never happen, then there is no reason not to draw the line. So at what point should abortions be regulated? 39 weeks? 24 weeks? 16 weeks? Something else?
- feet 4y ago
  Draw the line at 41 weeks. I don't care about your nonsense hypothetical. Bring me a real scenario. One singular example of an abortion at 39 weeks where the mother didn't want the baby. I guarantee you can't actually find one even though you claim it exists Hypotheticals are a waste of time, bring an actual example or stop wasting my time The mother takes priority up until that baby is breathing on its own. Always
  - yucky 4y ago
    >Draw the line at 41 weeks. And then we wonder why the pro-life crowd insists the pro-choice crowd are baby killers.
    - feet 4y ago
      And we wonder why the anti choice crowd is seen as mother killers I don't care about hypotheticals that have no basis in reality just like I don't give a shit about what the founding fathers thought, who were rapist-racist-sexist-slave owners who didn't want blacks, women, or poor people to have any say. Yea the document written by them is flawless lol sure. The constitution is out dated but the clowns in government make too much money off it and keep us peasants fighting about pointless shit like abortion while they loot the country I love how you just ignored the rest of my statement and can't bring up that example that you just know exists. Get off that clown shit and show me a real example So where is it? These examples of abortions where the mother didn't want it at 39 weeks Quit lying
      - yucky 4y ago
        >I love how you just ignored the rest of my statement You're making an argument for infanticide (abortions at 41 weeks <---your words) and wondering why I didn't follow the rest of your arguments?
        SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        > You're making an argument for infanticide You're asking trick questions. Proof above; "aha! that's infanticide!!" So clever.
        yucky 4y ago
        https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-860w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2022-06/220623-roe-v-wade-abortion-scotus-protest-2-se-805p-2ef18c.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-860w,f...
        feet 4y ago
        Which is exactly why I responded the way that I did. Dude is spouting nonsense saying examples exist. They are making claims and when I ask for citations they shout about infanticide. It's disingenuous bullshit designed to distract That's also why the poster didn't respond to the person who commented about Beto. They have no real response, position, or evidence. Their only position is fake outrage at something that doesn't exist in reality
        feet 4y ago
        Very convenient for you! Just ignore things when you see what you don't like! Still waiting for that one singular example. Where are your citations for your evidence? https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t...
        yucky 4y ago
        Dr Kermit Gosnell performed a number of elective abortions that late in term, and we only know about those because he was dumb enough to get caught killing a few after delivery.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  > Well, where would you draw the line? See this is the trick, the sleight-of hand - is draws you into accepting a simplistic falsehood: that a specific line has to be, should be or can be drawn. Medicine is not law, and law is not code. Or at least, when done well they behave differently. there is no sense in a code `if (fetus_weeks <= 16) return true else return false;` being law and then being medicine. That's 2 category errors right there. A decision between doctor and patient based on specific circumstances is what's called for. Pete Buttigieg said it quite well in this case: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-term-175009989.html https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t...

by feet 4y ago

yucky 4y ago

Well, where would you draw the line? You can't just pretend it never happens since we know it does. And even if you want to pretend it would never happen, then there is no reason not to draw the line. So at what point should abortions be regulated? 39 weeks? 24 weeks? 16 weeks? Something else?

feet 4y ago
Draw the line at 41 weeks. I don't care about your nonsense hypothetical. Bring me a real scenario. One singular example of an abortion at 39 weeks where the mother didn't want the baby. I guarantee you can't actually find one even though you claim it exists Hypotheticals are a waste of time, bring an actual example or stop wasting my time The mother takes priority up until that baby is breathing on its own. Always
- yucky 4y ago
  >Draw the line at 41 weeks. And then we wonder why the pro-life crowd insists the pro-choice crowd are baby killers.
  - feet 4y ago
    And we wonder why the anti choice crowd is seen as mother killers I don't care about hypotheticals that have no basis in reality just like I don't give a shit about what the founding fathers thought, who were rapist-racist-sexist-slave owners who didn't want blacks, women, or poor people to have any say. Yea the document written by them is flawless lol sure. The constitution is out dated but the clowns in government make too much money off it and keep us peasants fighting about pointless shit like abortion while they loot the country I love how you just ignored the rest of my statement and can't bring up that example that you just know exists. Get off that clown shit and show me a real example So where is it? These examples of abortions where the mother didn't want it at 39 weeks Quit lying
    - yucky 4y ago
      >I love how you just ignored the rest of my statement You're making an argument for infanticide (abortions at 41 weeks <---your words) and wondering why I didn't follow the rest of your arguments?
      - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
        > You're making an argument for infanticide You're asking trick questions. Proof above; "aha! that's infanticide!!" So clever.
        yucky 4y ago
        https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-860w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms/2022-06/220623-roe-v-wade-abortion-scotus-protest-2-se-805p-2ef18c.jpg https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-860w,f...
        feet 4y ago
        Which is exactly why I responded the way that I did. Dude is spouting nonsense saying examples exist. They are making claims and when I ask for citations they shout about infanticide. It's disingenuous bullshit designed to distract That's also why the poster didn't respond to the person who commented about Beto. They have no real response, position, or evidence. Their only position is fake outrage at something that doesn't exist in reality
      - feet 4y ago
        Very convenient for you! Just ignore things when you see what you don't like! Still waiting for that one singular example. Where are your citations for your evidence? https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t...
        yucky 4y ago
        Dr Kermit Gosnell performed a number of elective abortions that late in term, and we only know about those because he was dumb enough to get caught killing a few after delivery.
SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
> Well, where would you draw the line? See this is the trick, the sleight-of hand - is draws you into accepting a simplistic falsehood: that a specific line has to be, should be or can be drawn. Medicine is not law, and law is not code. Or at least, when done well they behave differently. there is no sense in a code `if (fetus_weeks <= 16) return true else return false;` being law and then being medicine. That's 2 category errors right there. A decision between doctor and patient based on specific circumstances is what's called for. Pete Buttigieg said it quite well in this case: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-term-175009989.html https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pete-buttigieg-shut-down-t...