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Whatever happened to the golden rule? Do people really need instructions on how to not be a selfish ass? If this god isn't an asshole then he sure is needy in

Whatever happened to the golden rule? Do people really need instructions on how to not be a selfish ass? If this god isn't an asshole then he sure is needy in getting a ton of people to have a "relationship" with him/be aligned to his "will" in order for them to be happy.

edgelard 4y ago
jhrmnn 4y ago
He doesn’t need anything. The statement is that there’s a way to live a good (satisfying) life, the God being the creator knows that way, and he reveals it to people, who should follow it (to live satisfying lives)
- beebmam 4y ago
  It is not "to live satisfying lives". It is because God commands it, and you should fear him.[1] It's very explicit. 1. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%2012&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%20...
  - jhrmnn 4y ago
    Well, yes, if you take the whole Bible literally, it’s not very nice and not even self-consistent. But I don’t think many reasonable people do that
    - tacon 4y ago
      Alas, the majority of Christians are not very "reasonable" in that way today. Fosdick was asking 100 years ago (1922) if the fundamentalists will win[0], and it is pretty clear today that they have[1]. [0] http://baptiststudiesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/shall-the-fundamentalists-win.pdf http://baptiststudiesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/s... [1] https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/p/shall-the-fundamentalists-win https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/p/shall-the-fundamental...
  - Thorrez 4y ago
    God commands it for our own benefit, not because he needs it. The Bible wasn't written in English. > The Hebrew word translated into ‘awe’ in the Bible is yirah (יראה, pronounced yir-ah). It often directly translates into fear, like “fear of the Lord,” but it can also mean respect, reverence, and worship. https://firmisrael.org/learn/hebrew-meaning-of-yirah-what-connects-fear-and-awe/ https://firmisrael.org/learn/hebrew-meaning-of-yirah-what-co... >John Mallon writes that the "fear" in "fear of the Lord" is often misinterpreted as "servile fear" (the fear of getting in trouble) when it should be understood as "filial fear" (the fear of offending someone whom one loves). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God
TimedToasts 4y ago
> Do people really need instructions on how to not be a selfish ass? Actually, yes. We all do.
- throwaway743 4y ago
  Maybe as a child, but as a grown ass adult? Don't be ridiculous.

edgelard 4y ago

jhrmnn 4y ago

He doesn’t need anything. The statement is that there’s a way to live a good (satisfying) life, the God being the creator knows that way, and he reveals it to people, who should follow it (to live satisfying lives)

beebmam 4y ago
It is not "to live satisfying lives". It is because God commands it, and you should fear him.[1] It's very explicit. 1. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%2012&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%20...
- jhrmnn 4y ago
  Well, yes, if you take the whole Bible literally, it’s not very nice and not even self-consistent. But I don’t think many reasonable people do that
  - tacon 4y ago
    Alas, the majority of Christians are not very "reasonable" in that way today. Fosdick was asking 100 years ago (1922) if the fundamentalists will win[0], and it is pretty clear today that they have[1]. [0] http://baptiststudiesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/shall-the-fundamentalists-win.pdf http://baptiststudiesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/s... [1] https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/p/shall-the-fundamentalists-win https://dianabutlerbass.substack.com/p/shall-the-fundamental...
- Thorrez 4y ago
  God commands it for our own benefit, not because he needs it. The Bible wasn't written in English. > The Hebrew word translated into ‘awe’ in the Bible is yirah (יראה, pronounced yir-ah). It often directly translates into fear, like “fear of the Lord,” but it can also mean respect, reverence, and worship. https://firmisrael.org/learn/hebrew-meaning-of-yirah-what-connects-fear-and-awe/ https://firmisrael.org/learn/hebrew-meaning-of-yirah-what-co... >John Mallon writes that the "fear" in "fear of the Lord" is often misinterpreted as "servile fear" (the fear of getting in trouble) when it should be understood as "filial fear" (the fear of offending someone whom one loves). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God

TimedToasts 4y ago

> Do people really need instructions on how to not be a selfish ass? Actually, yes. We all do.

throwaway743 4y ago
Maybe as a child, but as a grown ass adult? Don't be ridiculous.