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Clojure (dialect of Lisp) has been a great choice for us.

by throw03172019 4y ago

shubhamjain 4y ago
I worked at a company where it was used. I was on the front-end team, so I didn't really get to understand the perks really well, but overall, it was frustrating how difficult it was for us to work on that codebase. It felt like to even get started I had switch my editor from VS Code to emacs. It was impossible to hire Clojure devs directly. They had to go through this training period. And honestly, it never felt like the choice of language had reduced the number of problems we encountered. That's my personal take though.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  I tried contributing to a project a friend of mine worked on and it had the same requirement: change to emacs first. I'm not going to get rid of 35 years of muscle memory for common tasks just to work on something so that didn't pan out. But that doesn't stop me from appreciating the care and experience that went into designing Clojure, it's full of very nice balances, especially in the data structures and other low level implementation details.
- ergocoder 4y ago
  Emacs is the only ide for closure? Wow.
  - closeparen 4y ago
    There is also Cursive, an IntelliJ plugin/distribution. It's commercial though, perhaps why the parent dismissed it. https://cursive-ide.com/ https://cursive-ide.com/
    - throw03172019 4y ago
      Yes, we use Cursive in IntelliJ and love it.
    - ergocoder 4y ago
      It is pretty bad when there is no free dev tool, and you would have to go hardcore by using Emacs.
      - ravi-delia 4y ago
        Eh a simple cider config is hardly hardcore. Not quite as easy as a VSCode package install, but honestly pretty close. With a company config file to start you off it's just fine.
- nathants 4y ago
  there is a critical mass of devs who want clojure[script] but not emacs: https://github.com/BetterThanTomorrow/calva https://github.com/BetterThanTomorrow/calva
- throw03172019 4y ago
  We use Clojurescript on the frontend as well. Clojure everywhere! IntelliJ with Cursive plug-in is great. I never got into emacs.

Clojure (dialect of Lisp) has been a great choice for us.

I worked at a company where it was used. I was on the front-end team, so I didn't really get to understand the perks really well, but overall, it was frustrating how difficult it was for us to work on that codebase. It felt like to even get started I had switch my editor from VS Code to emacs. It was impossible to hire Clojure devs directly. They had to go through this training period. And honestly, it never felt like the choice of language had reduced the number of problems we encountered. That's my personal take though.

jacquesm 4y ago
I tried contributing to a project a friend of mine worked on and it had the same requirement: change to emacs first. I'm not going to get rid of 35 years of muscle memory for common tasks just to work on something so that didn't pan out. But that doesn't stop me from appreciating the care and experience that went into designing Clojure, it's full of very nice balances, especially in the data structures and other low level implementation details.
ergocoder 4y ago
Emacs is the only ide for closure? Wow.
- closeparen 4y ago
  There is also Cursive, an IntelliJ plugin/distribution. It's commercial though, perhaps why the parent dismissed it. https://cursive-ide.com/ https://cursive-ide.com/
  - throw03172019 4y ago
    Yes, we use Cursive in IntelliJ and love it.
  - ergocoder 4y ago
    It is pretty bad when there is no free dev tool, and you would have to go hardcore by using Emacs.
    - ravi-delia 4y ago
      Eh a simple cider config is hardly hardcore. Not quite as easy as a VSCode package install, but honestly pretty close. With a company config file to start you off it's just fine.
nathants 4y ago
there is a critical mass of devs who want clojure[script] but not emacs: https://github.com/BetterThanTomorrow/calva https://github.com/BetterThanTomorrow/calva
throw03172019 4y ago
We use Clojurescript on the frontend as well. Clojure everywhere! IntelliJ with Cursive plug-in is great. I never got into emacs.