> it doesn't run just one way So then you agree completely with me that apple is engaging is some anti-competitive practices, you just think other people are

> it doesn't run just one way So then you agree completely with me that apple is engaging is some anti-competitive practices, you just think other people are also engaging in anti-competitive practices. That doesn't refute my point. You are agreeing with me that yes Apple engages in anti-competitive practices that limit user choice. So back to the original point. You said this "if the best product wins in a competitive marketplace". This statement is false because Apple is engaging in anti competitive practices that prevent a competitive market from happening. So that is "where the problem is". The problem is the anti competitive practices that you agree with me that Apple is engaging in.