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In the meantime, whilst there's debate on legislation, women will die from ectopic pregnancies and other women's health issues that require the termination of a
by gonzo41 4y ago
In the meantime, whilst there's debate on legislation, women will die from ectopic pregnancies and other women's health issues that require the termination of a non viable pregnancy. It's very grim.
- kcplate 4y agoYes, this is one of the new “talking point” but it literally assumes that entire medical teams are going to sit on their hands all across the country and let women die. Let me make my prediction right now that this will never happen.
- sofixa 4y agoIt's already happened in Poland in basically the same situation (a miscarrying woman was left to die from sepsis because the doctors didn't want to risk being accused of aborting). Many doctors would prefer to not go to jail, even if it means risking a woman's life.
- kcplate 4y agoPoland is not the US.
- sofixa 4y agoDo you think American doctors would be more willing to go to prison over an abortion? I don't see much difference in the two countries in that regard, if anything American doctors also have to think about their student loans and are probably going to be more religious (Poland has a big Catholic problem but in the US having a religion is basically the norm)
- kcplate 4y agoI am saying that no state’s attorney would ever choose prosecute such a case because no US jury would ever convict a doctor that saved a woman’s life by correcting an ectopic pregnancy. Prosecutors have discretion and would take in to account the circumstances. There is not a medical expert in the country who would testify that a ectopic pregnancy is a viable pregnancy that should be left alone to allow nature to take its course…so a conviction would be impossible. Additionally, because the doctor and the patient are in an established doctor/patient relationship at that point, the doctor has a duty to act to provide the care that they are able to provide to save the mother. Failure to do so could make them legally liable for the mothers death. Perhaps that is the difference between Poland and the US. Perhaps over in Poland there is not this duty to act and it is legally acceptable to let a patient die that you can save and juries and judges would accept that condition. Wouldn’t happen over here.
- sershe 4y agoThis happened to my wife when she was travelling in Utah, she had an ectopic pregnancy at the point where she was already in a decent amount of pain and they wouldn't give her the pill to eliminate it because they wanted to monitor more to see if it's maybe viable/not ectopic. They told her she can try a difference hospital... she flew back to CA the same day and got it taken care of there.
- eloff 4y agoEctopic pregnancies and other medical emergencies are usually excluded from abortion laws. Law makers could always do something dumb though, there's lots of precedent for that.
- AstralStorm 4y agoExcept apparently in Ohio, which now has a law that forces reimplantation of an ectopic pregnancy, a medical procedure that does not exist.
- eloff 4y agoI had to look that up, because I thought nobody could be that dumb. US lawmakers continue to surprise me!
- brightball 4y agoAll the more reason legislation should have been passed at some point over the last 50 years.