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> The mother decided to have unprotected sex Or she was raped, or nobody taught her anything but religious abstinence bullshit and she didn't even know the ram

by sofixa 4y ago

> The mother decided to have unprotected sex Or she was raped, or nobody taught her anything but religious abstinence bullshit and she didn't even know the ramifications. > The body inside her body is not hers So if you take that "body" inside her out of her, what happens to it? It dies unless it's the late stages (what, 6 months in?) It's entirely dependent on her to grow to become a human being.

zthrowaway 4y ago
Rape is less than 2% of abortions. Even then, because my father was a horrible person I shouldn’t have to die for it. We don’t need to use rare edge cases to validate the 98% of abortions which are out of convenience. I’m not talking about abstinence, plenty of birth control options are available. Men need to take more responsibility and wear a condom. > So if you take that "body" inside her out of her, what happens to it? It dies unless it's the late stages (what, 6 months in?) It's entirely dependent on her to grow to become a human being. Yes this is biology, and? If you ever had to visit a NICU you’ll see plenty of 20 some week old pre-mature babies (or “bodies” in your case) that are just as human as you and I. They are just in a different stage in life. They need food to survive, just like you and I. I have a 1 year old, he is dependent on me to grow and survive.
- kaba0 4y ago
  No method is 100% safe - and we are talking about something that happens multiple times for most people, it will fail due to pure statistics.
thiht 4y ago
You should stop bringing rape or incest on this subject, it’s not useful to the cause. Abortion should be a a right regardless of the reasons. It’s not more of a right because the woman was raped. In both cases, they don’t want a thing growing in their uterus, no matter their reasons. The real problem is, in my opinion: should we force a human to maintain another human against their will? What if we could extract the fetus and grow it in vitro instead of aborting it? In the same vein, does a parent legally have to be an organ donor for their child? These are questions we can answer and debate on even if we disagree on whether a fetus is alive or not.

by sofixa 4y ago

zthrowaway 4y ago

Rape is less than 2% of abortions. Even then, because my father was a horrible person I shouldn’t have to die for it. We don’t need to use rare edge cases to validate the 98% of abortions which are out of convenience. I’m not talking about abstinence, plenty of birth control options are available. Men need to take more responsibility and wear a condom. > So if you take that "body" inside her out of her, what happens to it? It dies unless it's the late stages (what, 6 months in?) It's entirely dependent on her to grow to become a human being. Yes this is biology, and? If you ever had to visit a NICU you’ll see plenty of 20 some week old pre-mature babies (or “bodies” in your case) that are just as human as you and I. They are just in a different stage in life. They need food to survive, just like you and I. I have a 1 year old, he is dependent on me to grow and survive.

kaba0 4y ago
No method is 100% safe - and we are talking about something that happens multiple times for most people, it will fail due to pure statistics.

thiht 4y ago

You should stop bringing rape or incest on this subject, it’s not useful to the cause. Abortion should be a a right regardless of the reasons. It’s not more of a right because the woman was raped. In both cases, they don’t want a thing growing in their uterus, no matter their reasons. The real problem is, in my opinion: should we force a human to maintain another human against their will? What if we could extract the fetus and grow it in vitro instead of aborting it? In the same vein, does a parent legally have to be an organ donor for their child? These are questions we can answer and debate on even if we disagree on whether a fetus is alive or not.