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Yeah, destroying pedestrian and cycle infrastructure to keep cars out is a pet peeve of mine. It's often dangerous, makes the path inaccessible, and just plain
by matsemann 4y ago
Yeah, destroying pedestrian and cycle infrastructure to keep cars out is a pet peeve of mine. It's often dangerous, makes the path inaccessible, and just plain ugly.
Like the "concrete pigs" you mention. Often not marked properly, and cyclists have to slow down to a crawl to pass. Often 90% of the road is blocked with a boom barrier, and pedestrians and cyclists all have to share the remaining part to squeeze through. That only increases conflict. Also pretty hard for bigger cargo bikes, wheelchairs etc to pass. During winter, the booms are opened for the snow plow and then closed. Which means that as a cyclist I still have to cycle around on the un-plowed part...
It's insane the lengths one has to go to avoid cars destroying everything.
Edit: An example pic https://imgur.com/a/FmDd5Ve https://imgur.com/a/FmDd5Ve
Nice wide road, have to close it off with a boom because of cars. Pedestrians and cyclists have to pass on the icy parts...
- null_object 4y agoAt the end of this article (translated from Swedish) are a whole bunch of deadly obstacles placed in the way of cyclists “for their own safety”: https://bicycling-se.translate.goog/blogg/bilhindren-som-dodar-cyklister/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://bicycling-se.translate.goog/blogg/bilhindren-som-dod...
- matsemann 4y agoYeah, those pictures are quite crazy. I follow him on Twitter and saw the thread asking for examples, I think he got hundreds of images!
- checkurprivlege 4y agoworst are the iron chains hanging 30 cms over the ground
- throwaway0a5e 4y agoSome drunk mistakes the bike path for their turn and the municipal planner shows up to work on Monday with an inbox that's been blown up by a million Karens screeching about "gotta keep cars out" So he goes through the catalog of typical off the shelf solutions that exist in his trade, selects a reasonable one and has it installed. 6mo later his inbox gets blown up by the same million Karens screeching about how the barrier made the bike path suck. A large subset of the public is made up of people that don't understand that everything is tradeoffs and think they can have their cake and eat it too. And because these people can't wrap their minds around the tradeoffs it's impossible to have the adult dialog regarding which tradeoffs they dislike least that needs to be had if the least worst solution is to be reached. There's no winning when dealing with this kind of customer base unless you creatively define "winning" to exclude customer satisfaction. But when you do that you get other failure modes. You can sometimes money your way around the problems but that's just a constant factor improvement on something that's exponentially crap.
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- bagels 4y agoJust yesterday I had such a conflict. Someone thought one of these narrow openings was a good be place to stop for dog defacation.