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The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.

by thefz 4y ago

Crusoe123 4y ago
That is not true e.g.https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse
- thefz 4y ago
  One sub out of tens or hundreds on the other side won't change reality
- coffeeblack 4y ago
  Try searching for claims the election was fraudulent “in 2020” compared to “in 2016”. One is banned, the other promoted. Not just on Reddit but on many social media.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  What is your point? The person you were responding to never said Reddit doesn't also ban left wing subreddits.
multjoy 4y ago
Because the right wing were organising insurrections?
- coffeeblack 4y ago
  Do people really unironically believe that?
  - dTal 4y ago
    That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.
    - leereeves 4y ago
      Have people forgotten 2016 so quickly? The left had a nationwide movement named "Occupy" and the Democrats and most media approved. The right did it once and the same people all lost their minds.
      - krapp 4y ago
        Occupy was a series of legal protests, as opposed to a violent insurrectionist plot to subvert the legal transfer of power with sympathizers within the government. These are not the same.
        leereeves 4y ago
        Legal? Most occupy occupations were dismantled by the police, even in progressive cities like Oakland and Portland. Perhaps the police were wrong and the protestors had a right to occupy, but if so, why didn't the protestors on Jan 6 also have a right to occupy the Capitol? Violent? The only violence on January 6th was between police and protestors. There was plenty of similar violence at Occupy protests, but the Occupy protests also had other kinds of violence, like Sexual Assaults Reported in 'Occupy' Camps[1] Insurrectionist? "The FBI at this point believes the violence [on January 6th] was not centrally coordinated...there was no grand scheme...to storm the Capitol and take hostages."[2] Sympathizers within the government? Like Obama?[3] An attempt to disrupt the normal functioning of government? Yes, both were. That's actually a common protest tactic - protesters generally argue that a protest has to be disruptive to be effective. 1: https://abcnews.go.com/us/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014 https://abcnews.go.com/us/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street... 2: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-e... 3: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-risky-embrace-of-occupy-wall-street/2011/10/19/gIQA2pQf1L_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-risky-embrace...
      - SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
        The media undermined the Occupy protests, portraying them as a rudderless, rag-tag bunch of unemployed no-hopers seeking government handouts. The establishment media (millionaire mouthpieces for billionaires) is not going to assist any movement that actually threatens the establishment.
  - richbell 4y ago
    It's a convenient excuse. The reality is that the admins are continually clamping down on subreddits they don't like, without any justification or consistency. For example, one is left to wonder why /r/drama was forced to shut down because the admins considered them a nuisance, yet left-leaning subreddits engaging in vote-brigading and other equally disruptive behaviour are still around. I'd be remiss to claim that it's purely a left vs. right thing. But if the Aimee Challenor debacle was any indication, they have a clear list of people they like and people they don't like. And if they don't like you, for whatever reason, they eject you from the platform without any recourse.
  - philistine 4y ago
    Because that's true. When American democracy is no more, and a republican administration has denied any other political party from holding political office, remember that no one cleaned house in the American right wing, and let everyone slowly turn into the fascists.
    - MrMan 4y ago
      - dpbriggs 4y ago
        Did you intend to be racist and inflammatory, or just inflammatory?
  - teddyh 4y ago
    It sells news if people do, so news promotes this view: http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-insurrection-fever/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-in...
    - teddyh 4y ago
      Also: http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-one-mans-protester/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-on... http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-the-misinformation-war/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-th...
- mardifoufs 4y ago
  All of that happened before the 6th of January. If anything, reddit was pretty much scrubbed way before Jan 6th so that's a really disingenuous argument
- swat535 4y ago
  And yet the violent BLM mobs that literally set on fire and looted businesses and shops that had nothing to do with the actual cause were not only not condemned but also glorified and celebrated. You will not convince me that stealing TVs from target during riots that let to many unjustified injuries and deaths is about seeking justice. I’m not even American and this was completely obvious. Please let’s not pretend we don’t have extremism on both sides of the political compass. I have witness this behaviour on HN many times as well since this website leans overwhelmingly left; try saying anything remotely controversial and watch the downvotes ensue. I intentionally avoid speaking about my own views openly here out of fear of repercussion; especially because many users on this website run businesses and have the power to ruin my career and my livelihood. If it weren’t for dang, this place would descend to chaos just as well.
  - MrMan 4y ago
  - schrodinger 4y ago
    I live in NYC and was first-hand there for the BLM protests. Can attest that they were almost unilaterally peaceful from my anecdotal experience. The police were extreme in their responses. I was at Un Sq and ppl in the streets were just chanting "no justice, no peace" (but peacefully doing so, I suppose a bit of irony), and suddenly the police yelled out to disperse. I was off the to the side just to observe a moment of history, and watched ppl obey that order, yet personally got rammed by a police shield and hit with a baton because it just takes a crowd a certain amount of time to move. I was livid and saw police barbarity in action. There certainly were bad actors. I saw a police van lit on fire. But from what I read in the papers, these were prosecuted and out of staters coming to NY to basically get their rocks off. The overall movement was peaceful.
    - aqouta 4y ago
      I watched from my roof as someone rammed a moving van into multiple store fronts. I'm going to stick with my lying eyes.
Jordrok 4y ago
Tell that to /r/conservative where I am banned from for even attempting to present an alternate viewpoint. Dissent is literally forbidden by the subreddit's rules.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  There is a difference between a conservative subreddit only allowing conservatives and reddit banning conservative subreddits
  - Jordrok 4y ago
    You're missing the point. Reddit is not and never has banned subreddits purely for being conservative. That's a persecution fantasy that lives entirely in your head.

The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.

by thefz 4y ago

The problem with Reddit is that they banned unilaterally the right wing.

Crusoe123 4y ago

That is not true e.g.https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse https://www.reddit.com/r/chapotraphouse

thefz 4y ago
One sub out of tens or hundreds on the other side won't change reality
coffeeblack 4y ago
Try searching for claims the election was fraudulent “in 2020” compared to “in 2016”. One is banned, the other promoted. Not just on Reddit but on many social media.
_-david-_ 4y ago
What is your point? The person you were responding to never said Reddit doesn't also ban left wing subreddits.

multjoy 4y ago

Because the right wing were organising insurrections?

coffeeblack 4y ago
Do people really unironically believe that?
- dTal 4y ago
  That's pretty disingenuous, considering that the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack is currently headline news.
  - leereeves 4y ago
    Have people forgotten 2016 so quickly? The left had a nationwide movement named "Occupy" and the Democrats and most media approved. The right did it once and the same people all lost their minds.
    - krapp 4y ago
      Occupy was a series of legal protests, as opposed to a violent insurrectionist plot to subvert the legal transfer of power with sympathizers within the government. These are not the same.
      - leereeves 4y ago
        Legal? Most occupy occupations were dismantled by the police, even in progressive cities like Oakland and Portland. Perhaps the police were wrong and the protestors had a right to occupy, but if so, why didn't the protestors on Jan 6 also have a right to occupy the Capitol? Violent? The only violence on January 6th was between police and protestors. There was plenty of similar violence at Occupy protests, but the Occupy protests also had other kinds of violence, like Sexual Assaults Reported in 'Occupy' Camps[1] Insurrectionist? "The FBI at this point believes the violence [on January 6th] was not centrally coordinated...there was no grand scheme...to storm the Capitol and take hostages."[2] Sympathizers within the government? Like Obama?[3] An attempt to disrupt the normal functioning of government? Yes, both were. That's actually a common protest tactic - protesters generally argue that a protest has to be disruptive to be effective. 1: https://abcnews.go.com/us/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street-camps/story?id=14873014 https://abcnews.go.com/us/sexual-assaults-occupy-wall-street... 2: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-e... 3: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-risky-embrace-of-occupy-wall-street/2011/10/19/gIQA2pQf1L_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-risky-embrace...
    - SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
      The media undermined the Occupy protests, portraying them as a rudderless, rag-tag bunch of unemployed no-hopers seeking government handouts. The establishment media (millionaire mouthpieces for billionaires) is not going to assist any movement that actually threatens the establishment.
- richbell 4y ago
  It's a convenient excuse. The reality is that the admins are continually clamping down on subreddits they don't like, without any justification or consistency. For example, one is left to wonder why /r/drama was forced to shut down because the admins considered them a nuisance, yet left-leaning subreddits engaging in vote-brigading and other equally disruptive behaviour are still around. I'd be remiss to claim that it's purely a left vs. right thing. But if the Aimee Challenor debacle was any indication, they have a clear list of people they like and people they don't like. And if they don't like you, for whatever reason, they eject you from the platform without any recourse.
- philistine 4y ago
  Because that's true. When American democracy is no more, and a republican administration has denied any other political party from holding political office, remember that no one cleaned house in the American right wing, and let everyone slowly turn into the fascists.
  - MrMan 4y ago
    - dpbriggs 4y ago
      Did you intend to be racist and inflammatory, or just inflammatory?
- teddyh 4y ago
  It sells news if people do, so news promotes this view: http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-insurrection-fever/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-in...
  - teddyh 4y ago
    Also: http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-one-mans-protester/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-on... http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-the-misinformation-war/ http://www.thewebcomicfactory.com/comic/the-antiwar-comic-th...
mardifoufs 4y ago
All of that happened before the 6th of January. If anything, reddit was pretty much scrubbed way before Jan 6th so that's a really disingenuous argument
swat535 4y ago
And yet the violent BLM mobs that literally set on fire and looted businesses and shops that had nothing to do with the actual cause were not only not condemned but also glorified and celebrated. You will not convince me that stealing TVs from target during riots that let to many unjustified injuries and deaths is about seeking justice. I’m not even American and this was completely obvious. Please let’s not pretend we don’t have extremism on both sides of the political compass. I have witness this behaviour on HN many times as well since this website leans overwhelmingly left; try saying anything remotely controversial and watch the downvotes ensue. I intentionally avoid speaking about my own views openly here out of fear of repercussion; especially because many users on this website run businesses and have the power to ruin my career and my livelihood. If it weren’t for dang, this place would descend to chaos just as well.
- MrMan 4y ago
- schrodinger 4y ago
  I live in NYC and was first-hand there for the BLM protests. Can attest that they were almost unilaterally peaceful from my anecdotal experience. The police were extreme in their responses. I was at Un Sq and ppl in the streets were just chanting "no justice, no peace" (but peacefully doing so, I suppose a bit of irony), and suddenly the police yelled out to disperse. I was off the to the side just to observe a moment of history, and watched ppl obey that order, yet personally got rammed by a police shield and hit with a baton because it just takes a crowd a certain amount of time to move. I was livid and saw police barbarity in action. There certainly were bad actors. I saw a police van lit on fire. But from what I read in the papers, these were prosecuted and out of staters coming to NY to basically get their rocks off. The overall movement was peaceful.
  - aqouta 4y ago
    I watched from my roof as someone rammed a moving van into multiple store fronts. I'm going to stick with my lying eyes.

Jordrok 4y ago

Tell that to /r/conservative where I am banned from for even attempting to present an alternate viewpoint. Dissent is literally forbidden by the subreddit's rules.

_-david-_ 4y ago
There is a difference between a conservative subreddit only allowing conservatives and reddit banning conservative subreddits
- Jordrok 4y ago
  You're missing the point. Reddit is not and never has banned subreddits purely for being conservative. That's a persecution fantasy that lives entirely in your head.