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tiktok provides better “communities” with more organic content. it know it sounds weird but you can get into areas of tiktok very similar to a subreddit. the la

tiktok provides better “communities” with more organic content. it know it sounds weird but you can get into areas of tiktok very similar to a subreddit. the lack of centralization like public karma, mods, sticky posts, etc actually helps

Capricorn2481 4y ago
That's surprising to hear. I would've thought that'd be the last place I would look for community, but maybe I'll take a look
Dma54rhs 4y ago
TikTok recommendation algo is creepy but strange enough it's community is much more kinder and less angry than Reddit. If you give it a day or two train and get past the dancing videos its excellent (unless dancing videos are your thing of course).
- winternett 4y ago
  It's quite possibly not the algo anymore running TikTok ... It's likely now all just a random assortment of content from whoever pays the most for ad promotions on their posts, without violating community standards and policy, and occasional celeb posts here and there... of course. The algo likely only does light duty when something bad on the platform makes the news... They have to make sure paid ads run as promised, and a lot of people buy ads, there is likely no more space for unpaid algo picks, as the Internet now runs 24/7 worldwide with over 8 billion potential customers.
  - jpindar 4y ago
    Its not random. I always see content related to my specific interests (as indicated by the videos I've liked, and I never see celebrity posts. In fact TikTok is widely said to have the best algorithm for determining someone's interests.
    - winternett 4y ago
      It always depends on what type of user you are... The most disgruntled people usually are people who are business owners... If you're not marketing a business or your art work for example, you have no problems and the algorithm entertains you seamlessly. If you're someone like a musician, makeup artist, or web developer (for example) TikTok floods you with success tips, tutorials about how people went viral, with tips on pay for promotional ads on the platform, and a constant stream of thought leadership programming to keep you struggling and spending time and money on growth. It's quite hostile to anyone who just wants to develop listeners and viewers, or anyone who wants to market a product independently. Big businesses can just have a meeting with TikTok reps, pay a fee, and get prime promo placement. When you run a small business, without lots of employees, managing social media presence becomes a huge mountain to climb, and TikTok won't meat with you unless you're very popular or wealthy (and willing to spend) already. Everyone on the platform has a different perspective, TikTok's algo is good at determining that and maximizing what can be earned from each user, but it's not fair nor transparent at all, and it creates a situation where no one can question things because there are others that will always say their TikTok experience is "going just fine". User experience all depends on the user's personas.
  - Dma54rhs 4y ago
    Most certainly is. It's the best recommendation algo I've met. YouTube feels completely random and amateurish compared to it, at least for me. In fact I've hated every personalized algo before with the products I've used since they give me plain wrong things. Not TikTok.
qsdf38100 4y ago
Hmmm, tell me more about these better communities without centralization, moderation, or even votes. Sounds like the ideal opaque platform to brainwash people with "organic", shallow and easy to watch content. The perfect backdoor for an open society.

Capricorn2481 4y ago

That's surprising to hear. I would've thought that'd be the last place I would look for community, but maybe I'll take a look

Dma54rhs 4y ago

TikTok recommendation algo is creepy but strange enough it's community is much more kinder and less angry than Reddit. If you give it a day or two train and get past the dancing videos its excellent (unless dancing videos are your thing of course).

winternett 4y ago
It's quite possibly not the algo anymore running TikTok ... It's likely now all just a random assortment of content from whoever pays the most for ad promotions on their posts, without violating community standards and policy, and occasional celeb posts here and there... of course. The algo likely only does light duty when something bad on the platform makes the news... They have to make sure paid ads run as promised, and a lot of people buy ads, there is likely no more space for unpaid algo picks, as the Internet now runs 24/7 worldwide with over 8 billion potential customers.
- jpindar 4y ago
  Its not random. I always see content related to my specific interests (as indicated by the videos I've liked, and I never see celebrity posts. In fact TikTok is widely said to have the best algorithm for determining someone's interests.
  - winternett 4y ago
    It always depends on what type of user you are... The most disgruntled people usually are people who are business owners... If you're not marketing a business or your art work for example, you have no problems and the algorithm entertains you seamlessly. If you're someone like a musician, makeup artist, or web developer (for example) TikTok floods you with success tips, tutorials about how people went viral, with tips on pay for promotional ads on the platform, and a constant stream of thought leadership programming to keep you struggling and spending time and money on growth. It's quite hostile to anyone who just wants to develop listeners and viewers, or anyone who wants to market a product independently. Big businesses can just have a meeting with TikTok reps, pay a fee, and get prime promo placement. When you run a small business, without lots of employees, managing social media presence becomes a huge mountain to climb, and TikTok won't meat with you unless you're very popular or wealthy (and willing to spend) already. Everyone on the platform has a different perspective, TikTok's algo is good at determining that and maximizing what can be earned from each user, but it's not fair nor transparent at all, and it creates a situation where no one can question things because there are others that will always say their TikTok experience is "going just fine". User experience all depends on the user's personas.
- Dma54rhs 4y ago
  Most certainly is. It's the best recommendation algo I've met. YouTube feels completely random and amateurish compared to it, at least for me. In fact I've hated every personalized algo before with the products I've used since they give me plain wrong things. Not TikTok.

qsdf38100 4y ago

Hmmm, tell me more about these better communities without centralization, moderation, or even votes. Sounds like the ideal opaque platform to brainwash people with "organic", shallow and easy to watch content. The perfect backdoor for an open society.