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I, like you, followed MMO to MMO throughout the 2000s and the road ended at WoW. I don’t think we’ll see the next big MMO until the Metaverse and VR become mai

I, like you, followed MMO to MMO throughout the 2000s and the road ended at WoW. I don’t think we’ll see the next big MMO until the Metaverse and VR become mainstream. I’ve given up all hope of anything ever competing with WoW. It was such a phenomenal game that nothing else has ever even come close. We need the next iteration of immersion technology before something can compete. I still miss that game so much.

ThalesX 4y ago
WoW was colossal. It shaped an entire generation I was part of; the socialization, camaraderie, ventrillo and teamspeak chats, friends all over the world. I can’t really imagine myself without it. I remember one New Year’s Eve in Goldshire. It still is honestly one of my favorite NYE. Getting drunk on voice chat, throwing fireworks, having engineers build all sorts of weird contraptions, some steamy chat with probably a balding dude playing a Night Elf chick. I still play every expansion. I make a new character and level it to max. But it takes ages and I usually solo and when I hit max I mostly stop. It’s a little guilty pleasure. I like to believe this is what kids today get with Fortnite and whatchamadoodle.
- lampshades 4y ago
  An under appreciated aspect of WFH is that we just replaced TeamSpeak with Slack, raids with outages and releases, and quests with tickets. Maybe we’re already playing the next game.
- poisonarena 4y ago
  I remember in Anarchy online my friend 'married' a 'woman' in Omni-One and I attended his wedding, he they exchanged in game rings and all and he bought 'her' a hover car
Jonnston 4y ago
FFXIV is actually bigger than WoW these days.
- dimgl 4y ago
  > doubt
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    You doubt that FF14 has over taken WOW 2 years ago? Wow continues to lose players. Wow is down to like 15m and FF14 is up to around 24m. At its peak wow dwarfs every mmorpg in history tho.
    - Macha 4y ago
      24m is the total sales of FFXIV. 15m for WoW was the last published concurrent subscribers in ~2014. These are not comparable numbers. The current estimates are about 1.7m for FFXIV [1] and 1.2m for WoW [2] (+another 500k[3] if you include WoW classic, but there's some overlap between retail and classic). Since neither company releases subscriber counts that's our best guess. It's clear FFXIV was ahead of WoW while FFXIV was undergoing it's endwalker pre-launch hype and did well to retain those players post-launch compared to prior expansions, while at the same time WoW was undergoing it's peak period of shadowlands discontent. But as WoW gets into dragonflight hype mode and FFXIV is between patches, it looks like WoW has drawn back even for a while. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/u0gfwo/new_lucky_bancho_census_details_are_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/u0gfwo/new_lucky_ban... [2]: https://mmo-population.com/r/wow/ https://mmo-population.com/r/wow/ [3]: https://mmo-population.com/r/classicwow/ https://mmo-population.com/r/classicwow/

ThalesX 4y ago

WoW was colossal. It shaped an entire generation I was part of; the socialization, camaraderie, ventrillo and teamspeak chats, friends all over the world. I can’t really imagine myself without it. I remember one New Year’s Eve in Goldshire. It still is honestly one of my favorite NYE. Getting drunk on voice chat, throwing fireworks, having engineers build all sorts of weird contraptions, some steamy chat with probably a balding dude playing a Night Elf chick. I still play every expansion. I make a new character and level it to max. But it takes ages and I usually solo and when I hit max I mostly stop. It’s a little guilty pleasure. I like to believe this is what kids today get with Fortnite and whatchamadoodle.

lampshades 4y ago
An under appreciated aspect of WFH is that we just replaced TeamSpeak with Slack, raids with outages and releases, and quests with tickets. Maybe we’re already playing the next game.
poisonarena 4y ago
I remember in Anarchy online my friend 'married' a 'woman' in Omni-One and I attended his wedding, he they exchanged in game rings and all and he bought 'her' a hover car

Jonnston 4y ago

FFXIV is actually bigger than WoW these days.

dimgl 4y ago
> doubt
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  You doubt that FF14 has over taken WOW 2 years ago? Wow continues to lose players. Wow is down to like 15m and FF14 is up to around 24m. At its peak wow dwarfs every mmorpg in history tho.
  - Macha 4y ago
    24m is the total sales of FFXIV. 15m for WoW was the last published concurrent subscribers in ~2014. These are not comparable numbers. The current estimates are about 1.7m for FFXIV [1] and 1.2m for WoW [2] (+another 500k[3] if you include WoW classic, but there's some overlap between retail and classic). Since neither company releases subscriber counts that's our best guess. It's clear FFXIV was ahead of WoW while FFXIV was undergoing it's endwalker pre-launch hype and did well to retain those players post-launch compared to prior expansions, while at the same time WoW was undergoing it's peak period of shadowlands discontent. But as WoW gets into dragonflight hype mode and FFXIV is between patches, it looks like WoW has drawn back even for a while. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/u0gfwo/new_lucky_bancho_census_details_are_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/u0gfwo/new_lucky_ban... [2]: https://mmo-population.com/r/wow/ https://mmo-population.com/r/wow/ [3]: https://mmo-population.com/r/classicwow/ https://mmo-population.com/r/classicwow/