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I downvoted you because doing one thing does not preclude doing the other. Using an electric car and solar panels is very good for the environment. You can also

I downvoted you because doing one thing does not preclude doing the other. Using an electric car and solar panels is very good for the environment. You can also eat less/no meat in addition.

jhlllnd 4y ago
To become fully carbon neutral everyone has to go vegan eventually, no?
- cheese_goddess 4y ago
  No. Who said that, other than vegans? It's a lie. Everybody else, the IPCC, the FAO, environmental organisations, they all say we need to shift diets, in particular western diets, towards a plant-based diet: > Such recommendations include for example: having a mostly plant-based diet, focus on seasonal and local foods, reduction of food waste, consumption of fish from sustainable stocks only and reduction of red and processed meat, highly-processed foods and sugar-sweetened beverages. https://www.fao.org/nutrition/education/food-dietary-guidelines/background/sustainable-dietary-guidelines/en/ https://www.fao.org/nutrition/education/food-dietary-guideli... But a plant-based diet is not vegan (although a vegan diet is plant-based), it's a diet where the majority of calories come from plants: > A plant-based diet is a diet consisting mostly or entirely of plant-based foods.[1][2][3] Plant-based diets encompass a wide range of dietary patterns that contain low amounts of animal products and high amounts of plant products such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds.[4][5] They do not need to be vegan or vegetarian[6][7] but are defined in terms of low frequency of animal food consumption.[8][9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet For example, the Mediterranean diet is a plant-based diet: > The principal aspects of this diet include proportionally high consumption of olive oil, legumes, unrefined cereals, fruits,[3] and vegetables, moderate to high consumption of fish, moderate consumption of dairy products (mostly as cheese and yogurt), moderate wine consumption, and low consumption of non-fish meat products. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet A plant-based diet includes fish, dairy, eggs and meat, although meat in moderate to small quantities. Vegans certainly like to pretend that "plant-based" means "vegan", but that's just their propaganda. Please don't help spread such lies.

I downvoted you because doing one thing does not preclude doing the other. Using an electric car and solar panels is very good for the environment. You can also eat less/no meat in addition.

jhlllnd 4y ago

To become fully carbon neutral everyone has to go vegan eventually, no?

cheese_goddess 4y ago
No. Who said that, other than vegans? It's a lie. Everybody else, the IPCC, the FAO, environmental organisations, they all say we need to shift diets, in particular western diets, towards a plant-based diet: > Such recommendations include for example: having a mostly plant-based diet, focus on seasonal and local foods, reduction of food waste, consumption of fish from sustainable stocks only and reduction of red and processed meat, highly-processed foods and sugar-sweetened beverages. https://www.fao.org/nutrition/education/food-dietary-guidelines/background/sustainable-dietary-guidelines/en/ https://www.fao.org/nutrition/education/food-dietary-guideli... But a plant-based diet is not vegan (although a vegan diet is plant-based), it's a diet where the majority of calories come from plants: > A plant-based diet is a diet consisting mostly or entirely of plant-based foods.[1][2][3] Plant-based diets encompass a wide range of dietary patterns that contain low amounts of animal products and high amounts of plant products such as vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, nuts and seeds.[4][5] They do not need to be vegan or vegetarian[6][7] but are defined in terms of low frequency of animal food consumption.[8][9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant-based_diet For example, the Mediterranean diet is a plant-based diet: > The principal aspects of this diet include proportionally high consumption of olive oil, legumes, unrefined cereals, fruits,[3] and vegetables, moderate to high consumption of fish, moderate consumption of dairy products (mostly as cheese and yogurt), moderate wine consumption, and low consumption of non-fish meat products. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet A plant-based diet includes fish, dairy, eggs and meat, although meat in moderate to small quantities. Vegans certainly like to pretend that "plant-based" means "vegan", but that's just their propaganda. Please don't help spread such lies.