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I find clojure/conj to be a tad too theoretical (at least from paper). Not that I don't like that since I am a language geek anyway, but I think it will be grea

I find clojure/conj to be a tad too theoretical (at least from paper). Not that I don't like that since I am a language geek anyway, but I think it will be great for Clojure the language to have a more of a "get things done" conference to complement the conj.

fogus 15y ago
Do you mind explaining "theoretical"? For example, of the talks listed this year are there any that you would say are theoretical?
- tbatchelli 15y ago
  I guess theoretical is a subjective term. What I meant to say was that Clojure/conj seems geared towards advanced clojure users, and I think Clojure would benefit of a conference that focuses more on bringing new developers to the fold. From this perspective, more talks about build tools, web development frameworks, useful libraries, etc would be great. I personally think that clojure could use some more evangelization here in the Bay Area, and I believe Clojure/west can do just that. But I myself attended to the Emerging Languages Conference, so I will definitely enjoy the conj very much, don't get me wrong. EDIT: I guess I didn't answer part of your question, which is what talks I consider theoretical. Here are some (judging from title and abstract): "Extreme Cleverness: Functional Data Structures in Scala", "Predicate Dispatch", "Concurrent Stream Processing" . Hoping this will help with clarification, this is what I would like to see too at some point: "From concept to production in 40 min: how to create a webapp in clojure", "A survey of Clojure tooling", "Debugging made easy", "Clojure and Hadoop", etc.
  - fogus 15y ago
    I do see what you mean. I was afraid that you were getting into the "academic" phrasing, but suspected that I only misunderstood. I too like case-studies and prefer a mix of them and the "theoretical" topics.[1] I would hate to see one excluded in favor of the other, so I am hopeful that Alex and team will put together a great mix. [1]: Although I think the vast majority of topics that we as programmers talk about are theories.
    - puredanger 15y ago
      We will brew up a tasty mix.

fogus 15y ago

Do you mind explaining "theoretical"? For example, of the talks listed this year are there any that you would say are theoretical?

tbatchelli 15y ago
I guess theoretical is a subjective term. What I meant to say was that Clojure/conj seems geared towards advanced clojure users, and I think Clojure would benefit of a conference that focuses more on bringing new developers to the fold. From this perspective, more talks about build tools, web development frameworks, useful libraries, etc would be great. I personally think that clojure could use some more evangelization here in the Bay Area, and I believe Clojure/west can do just that. But I myself attended to the Emerging Languages Conference, so I will definitely enjoy the conj very much, don't get me wrong. EDIT: I guess I didn't answer part of your question, which is what talks I consider theoretical. Here are some (judging from title and abstract): "Extreme Cleverness: Functional Data Structures in Scala", "Predicate Dispatch", "Concurrent Stream Processing" . Hoping this will help with clarification, this is what I would like to see too at some point: "From concept to production in 40 min: how to create a webapp in clojure", "A survey of Clojure tooling", "Debugging made easy", "Clojure and Hadoop", etc.
- fogus 15y ago
  I do see what you mean. I was afraid that you were getting into the "academic" phrasing, but suspected that I only misunderstood. I too like case-studies and prefer a mix of them and the "theoretical" topics.[1] I would hate to see one excluded in favor of the other, so I am hopeful that Alex and team will put together a great mix. [1]: Although I think the vast majority of topics that we as programmers talk about are theories.
  - puredanger 15y ago
    We will brew up a tasty mix.