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I never developed phone addiction in this way because I always had mobile data disabled. I only enable mobile data when I need to sync calendars. That being s

I never developed phone addiction in this way because I always had mobile data disabled. I only enable mobile data when I need to sync calendars. That being said: on PC and too often check hacker news and similar sites: I'm trying out Krishnamurti's "observation": Can you catch yourself the VERY MOMENT you wish to go to some website (NOT after you already did: but when you wish to go: what kind of pressure/frustration is building up in you?

codemonkey-zeta 4y ago
This is exactly the same reason I didn't develop an addiction. Being forced to be disciplined about data seems to have had a knock-on effect of lowering my dependence on the phone in general.
- pastaguy1 4y ago
  For me I think graduating to a smartphone later than "normal" had a similar effect. Mid 30s, but I got my first smartphone at ~25 instead of ~20. There's a lot of external pressure to be constantly on your phone. People of my age are a little perplexed when I explain to them the reason I didn't text back right away was because I was outside, but my phone was upstairs in my room.
codemonkey-zeta 4y ago
Will definitely check out "observation", sound interesting! I feel like the next step after recognizing and slowing/stopping the problem is with filling that void with meaningful work. For this I recommend "Deep Work" by Cal Newport. I felt like that book gave me the tools I needed to not just stop the bad habit, but replace it with constructive ones
- landemva 4y ago
  That is an easy read, and I liked the examples such as hay farming, and 'shallow' v. 'deep' work. People have to be willing to prioritize and set down the distractions.
kzrdude 4y ago
I'm wanting to do a phone & computer distraction free day per week. I just haven't gotten started.. of course. Maybe disabling data on the phone will be a good way to do it! (I still need to keep it around at work hours for calls.)
- landemva 4y ago
  A friend of mine just got a new model candybar phone. Calls and texts (w/o pictures).

codemonkey-zeta 4y ago

This is exactly the same reason I didn't develop an addiction. Being forced to be disciplined about data seems to have had a knock-on effect of lowering my dependence on the phone in general.

pastaguy1 4y ago
For me I think graduating to a smartphone later than "normal" had a similar effect. Mid 30s, but I got my first smartphone at ~25 instead of ~20. There's a lot of external pressure to be constantly on your phone. People of my age are a little perplexed when I explain to them the reason I didn't text back right away was because I was outside, but my phone was upstairs in my room.

codemonkey-zeta 4y ago

Will definitely check out "observation", sound interesting! I feel like the next step after recognizing and slowing/stopping the problem is with filling that void with meaningful work. For this I recommend "Deep Work" by Cal Newport. I felt like that book gave me the tools I needed to not just stop the bad habit, but replace it with constructive ones

landemva 4y ago
That is an easy read, and I liked the examples such as hay farming, and 'shallow' v. 'deep' work. People have to be willing to prioritize and set down the distractions.

kzrdude 4y ago

I'm wanting to do a phone & computer distraction free day per week. I just haven't gotten started.. of course. Maybe disabling data on the phone will be a good way to do it! (I still need to keep it around at work hours for calls.)

landemva 4y ago
A friend of mine just got a new model candybar phone. Calls and texts (w/o pictures).