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IMO I think the fact that the numbers are so low shows that people should stop giving a shit about death by guns by civilians. I wish humanity put as much foc

by novok 4y ago

IMO I think the fact that the numbers are so low shows that people should stop giving a shit about death by guns by civilians. I wish humanity put as much focus about the obesity & diabetes crisis, car deaths, slipping in the bathtub, murder by government policy and war than they did about guns. Guns are flashy, but infinitesimal compared to the actual causes of early death. The dirty secret of gun control policies is they do not much at all. Gun control policies that reduce actual human death are mostly about impulsive suicide prevention, and if you get rid of the guns, I'm guessing a substitution effect would start happening anyway. When you really dig into it, most non-government caused gun death comes from mental health issues, economic inequality, organized crime shootouts and suicide, and those things are not solved by making guns harder to get, beyond some suicide impulse prevention.

mbrodersen 4y ago
You are right. People care about things that most likely will never kill them while continuing to eat a diet that will very likely result in disease and an early death.
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
> IMO I think the fact that the numbers are so low shows that people should stop giving a shit about death by guns by civilians They are usually zero in many developed countries and usually non zero in others(I mean one here). So giving a shit about it actually have an impact. It can make the difference between your kids coming home from school or not. Gun violence in US kills.more people than soldiers at war. Should we stop giving a shit about war too? I think it's shows that the average US mentality is cynical about other people's lives exactly because people don't give a shit. Obesity is a problem of quality of food, if McDonalds cost less than vegetables and poor people often can't afford healthy options of course there are going to be consequences. But the solution is not throwing money at the problem (food stamps) it's in a shift in culture, which US society is apparently not able to do, because nobody gives a shit. They are good at campaigning to deny abortion to women, but not to make healthy food available to everybody regardless of the census. Maybe it's too a socialist option for them. > Guns are flashy, but infinitesimal compared to the actual causes of early death. That's completely untrue. And, again, it shows the cult around guns that some people appear to be sucked in. Guns Became the Leading Cause of Death for American Children and Teens in 2020 https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/ https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/

by novok 4y ago

mbrodersen 4y ago

You are right. People care about things that most likely will never kill them while continuing to eat a diet that will very likely result in disease and an early death.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

> IMO I think the fact that the numbers are so low shows that people should stop giving a shit about death by guns by civilians They are usually zero in many developed countries and usually non zero in others(I mean one here). So giving a shit about it actually have an impact. It can make the difference between your kids coming home from school or not. Gun violence in US kills.more people than soldiers at war. Should we stop giving a shit about war too? I think it's shows that the average US mentality is cynical about other people's lives exactly because people don't give a shit. Obesity is a problem of quality of food, if McDonalds cost less than vegetables and poor people often can't afford healthy options of course there are going to be consequences. But the solution is not throwing money at the problem (food stamps) it's in a shift in culture, which US society is apparently not able to do, because nobody gives a shit. They are good at campaigning to deny abortion to women, but not to make healthy food available to everybody regardless of the census. Maybe it's too a socialist option for them. > Guns are flashy, but infinitesimal compared to the actual causes of early death. That's completely untrue. And, again, it shows the cult around guns that some people appear to be sucked in. Guns Became the Leading Cause of Death for American Children and Teens in 2020 https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/ https://time.com/6170864/cause-of-death-children-guns/