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This is how federalism is meant to work, independent states who share bare minimum of federal institutions, usually those governing foreign policy and war makin

This is how federalism is meant to work, independent states who share bare minimum of federal institutions, usually those governing foreign policy and war making. I guess this is the end goal of most conservative folks on the right wing? Not a US citizen so interested to know more about the true motivations of those who rail against 'the feds'

sn0w_crash 4y ago
This is correct. For some reason in the past 10-20 years Americans have forgotten or been misinformed about federalism. I know folks in their 20s and 30s who until recently had no idea that laws were different in different states.
nine_zeros 4y ago
In American history, the topic of personal liberties and privacy is a national, constitutional topic. This is especially important given the history of some states abusing humans via slavery and enforcing it via the federalism argument. Just because we have a federal structure it doesn't mean that rogue states should have the leeway to abuse human freedoms.
- dane-pgp 4y ago
  > abusing humans via slavery The difference, of course, is that previously some states wanted to be able to categorize some people as being mere property, whereas this time some states are worried they won't be able to categorize some people as being merely a bundle of cells.
  - nine_zeros 4y ago
    > they won't be able to categorize some people as being merely a bundle of cells. Or, they'd criminalize and take freedoms away from living humans, for a bundle of cells, just because it doesn't match their moral perspective.
gamechangr 4y ago
As an American, I recognize that Abortion is a complexed issue where both sides believe they are representing good and opposing bad. It's a little disheartening to see how easily both sides demonize the other side. I know this is a controversial opinion and will probably get a little hate on HN's, but I would support almost all issues being decided at the state level. This allows people to move to a location that agrees more closely aligns with their political views.

sn0w_crash 4y ago

This is correct. For some reason in the past 10-20 years Americans have forgotten or been misinformed about federalism. I know folks in their 20s and 30s who until recently had no idea that laws were different in different states.

nine_zeros 4y ago

In American history, the topic of personal liberties and privacy is a national, constitutional topic. This is especially important given the history of some states abusing humans via slavery and enforcing it via the federalism argument. Just because we have a federal structure it doesn't mean that rogue states should have the leeway to abuse human freedoms.

dane-pgp 4y ago
> abusing humans via slavery The difference, of course, is that previously some states wanted to be able to categorize some people as being mere property, whereas this time some states are worried they won't be able to categorize some people as being merely a bundle of cells.
- nine_zeros 4y ago
  > they won't be able to categorize some people as being merely a bundle of cells. Or, they'd criminalize and take freedoms away from living humans, for a bundle of cells, just because it doesn't match their moral perspective.

gamechangr 4y ago

As an American, I recognize that Abortion is a complexed issue where both sides believe they are representing good and opposing bad. It's a little disheartening to see how easily both sides demonize the other side. I know this is a controversial opinion and will probably get a little hate on HN's, but I would support almost all issues being decided at the state level. This allows people to move to a location that agrees more closely aligns with their political views.