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Love how attacking GNOME devs who work in their free time gets top HN of the day. If you don’t like it, roll up your sleeves and submit a patch. If you can’t do

Love how attacking GNOME devs who work in their free time gets top HN of the day. If you don’t like it, roll up your sleeves and submit a patch. If you can’t do that, go find another desktop.

guerrilla 4y ago
I don't think patches will get accepted, they have their vision and won't listen to anyone: however, just fork it like MATE and Cinnamon have. I use both, depending on my mood. There are even others...
- esarbe 4y ago
  Every project needs to have a vision and if your patches don't fit into that vision, they won't get accepted. That's how FOSS software works.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    Yes? Why are you telling me this?
stingraycharles 4y ago
While I don’t like the hostile tone, “if you don’t like it, fork it / submit a patch” is equally unproductive, especially when it’s about the high level, direction of a project.
- krapp 4y ago
  How is it unproductive? That's literally how F/OSS is supposed to work.
  - phendrenad2 4y ago
    No, it's not. FOSS has come a long way since the bad old days of code being the only consideration. Now people expect that open-source projects have good stewardship of said code, and accept direction from the community, you know, the users. Unfortunately many corporate-sponsored projects have other goals, often detrimental to the community. Which would be fine, if you could just switch to something else, but good luck getting away from GNOME/GTK (unless you happen to like KDE, which isn't everyone's cup of tea).
Sin2x 4y ago
Free time. Uh-huh. https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/4q2sq8/around_what_time_did_red_hat_employees_become_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/4q2sq8/around_what_t...
dapids 4y ago
It'd be different if they actually accepted them regularly. In this instance I agree with OP.
0x_rs 4y ago
>If you don’t like it, roll up your sleeves and submit a patch. Please, does this argument ever work? Submitting a patch seems useless if it goes against the project's vision (or complexity thereof, see two following links for examples), it's just a waste of both parties time. Of course, they have their rights to decide so, and everybody else has theirs to complain about it, in my opinion. . https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754302 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754302 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233#note_505157 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233#note_505157 >If you can’t do that, go find another desktop. I haven't used GNOME in more than a decade, and if I could, I'd never use a GTK application ever again either, for dealing with some of the annoyances and "easter eggs" goes against whatever intuition I've developed using desktop GUIs.

Love how attacking GNOME devs who work in their free time gets top HN of the day. If you don’t like it, roll up your sleeves and submit a patch. If you can’t do that, go find another desktop.

guerrilla 4y ago

I don't think patches will get accepted, they have their vision and won't listen to anyone: however, just fork it like MATE and Cinnamon have. I use both, depending on my mood. There are even others...

esarbe 4y ago
Every project needs to have a vision and if your patches don't fit into that vision, they won't get accepted. That's how FOSS software works.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  Yes? Why are you telling me this?

stingraycharles 4y ago

While I don’t like the hostile tone, “if you don’t like it, fork it / submit a patch” is equally unproductive, especially when it’s about the high level, direction of a project.

krapp 4y ago
How is it unproductive? That's literally how F/OSS is supposed to work.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  No, it's not. FOSS has come a long way since the bad old days of code being the only consideration. Now people expect that open-source projects have good stewardship of said code, and accept direction from the community, you know, the users. Unfortunately many corporate-sponsored projects have other goals, often detrimental to the community. Which would be fine, if you could just switch to something else, but good luck getting away from GNOME/GTK (unless you happen to like KDE, which isn't everyone's cup of tea).

Sin2x 4y ago

Free time. Uh-huh. https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/4q2sq8/around_what_time_did_red_hat_employees_become_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/4q2sq8/around_what_t...

dapids 4y ago

It'd be different if they actually accepted them regularly. In this instance I agree with OP.

0x_rs 4y ago

>If you don’t like it, roll up your sleeves and submit a patch. Please, does this argument ever work? Submitting a patch seems useless if it goes against the project's vision (or complexity thereof, see two following links for examples), it's just a waste of both parties time. Of course, they have their rights to decide so, and everybody else has theirs to complain about it, in my opinion. . https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754302 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754302 . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233#note_505157 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233#note_505157 >If you can’t do that, go find another desktop. I haven't used GNOME in more than a decade, and if I could, I'd never use a GTK application ever again either, for dealing with some of the annoyances and "easter eggs" goes against whatever intuition I've developed using desktop GUIs.