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I couldn't agree more. They have their HIG and their Adwaita design language, but the end result somehow is still subjectively off-putting for me personally, vi

by Sin2x 4y ago

I couldn't agree more. They have their HIG and their Adwaita design language, but the end result somehow is still subjectively off-putting for me personally, visual-wise and usage-wise. They need their Steve Jobs.

baybal2 4y ago
They would never have it because nobody would work with them. It's an OSS projects with the most abrasive, and socially inept people around, seemingly gathered together on purpose. GNOME had few hundred active contributors on its peak, now down to at most 20-30 people. The proliferation of *Kits is very much an intentional policy by RedHat to pull the classical "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" scheme, except when they do the extinguish thing, the remaining people have no other option, but to move to RedHat's platform.
- Sin2x 4y ago
  Were you answering to my comment? Anyways, I don't believe that Gnome nowadays is an open project de facto -- AFAIK most of the contributors are Red Hat/IBM employees for whom it's a job.
  - heretogetout 4y ago
    I can't honestly say this is how OSS projects die (I just don't know) but there does seem to be a correlation between corporate support and low PR acceptance. I know I'm put off by all the anti-contributor corpo-CLA nonsense that's permeated the OSS world and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
- esarbe 4y ago
  > It's an OSS projects with the most abrasive, and socially inept people around, seemingly gathered together on purpose. You are repeating unsubstantiated claims and accusations. > The proliferation of *Kits is very much an intentional policy by RedHat to pull the classical "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" scheme, except when they do the extinguish thing, the remaining people have no other option, but to move to RedHat's platform. And this is just conspiratorial. Really, this is not contributing anything to the discussion.
phendrenad2 4y ago
The GNOME HIG is barely a thing anyway. I've read it, it's like 3 pages of vague platitudes like "Make things nice for the user".

by Sin2x 4y ago

baybal2 4y ago

They would never have it because nobody would work with them. It's an OSS projects with the most abrasive, and socially inept people around, seemingly gathered together on purpose. GNOME had few hundred active contributors on its peak, now down to at most 20-30 people. The proliferation of *Kits is very much an intentional policy by RedHat to pull the classical "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" scheme, except when they do the extinguish thing, the remaining people have no other option, but to move to RedHat's platform.

Sin2x 4y ago
Were you answering to my comment? Anyways, I don't believe that Gnome nowadays is an open project de facto -- AFAIK most of the contributors are Red Hat/IBM employees for whom it's a job.
- heretogetout 4y ago
  I can't honestly say this is how OSS projects die (I just don't know) but there does seem to be a correlation between corporate support and low PR acceptance. I know I'm put off by all the anti-contributor corpo-CLA nonsense that's permeated the OSS world and I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
esarbe 4y ago
> It's an OSS projects with the most abrasive, and socially inept people around, seemingly gathered together on purpose. You are repeating unsubstantiated claims and accusations. > The proliferation of *Kits is very much an intentional policy by RedHat to pull the classical "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" scheme, except when they do the extinguish thing, the remaining people have no other option, but to move to RedHat's platform. And this is just conspiratorial. Really, this is not contributing anything to the discussion.

phendrenad2 4y ago

The GNOME HIG is barely a thing anyway. I've read it, it's like 3 pages of vague platitudes like "Make things nice for the user".