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I don't see .NET for the OSX either for windows mobile dev. You can do Android apps, yes, but look at how many ugly and useless apps there is on Android Market.

I don't see .NET for the OSX either for windows mobile dev. You can do Android apps, yes, but look at how many ugly and useless apps there is on Android Market. For me it has nothing to do with closed minded. It's Apple's mantra, they rather have a small group of developers so they can select quality apps, than to have crappy apps. Yes, you will need to have a Apple computer, but come on, it's not that expensive, besides if you want to make money you have to invest.

krobertson 15y ago
I agree wholeheartedly. You develop iOS apps with Xcode. To support Windows, they need to then develop a whole Windows IDE, support it, etc. There isn't a significant reason to, there is no business sense in it. Microsoft doesn't have an IDE for Mac to write Windows Phone 7 apps, and I don't see anyone crying about it.
- bad_user 15y ago
  That's because Windows Phone 7 is for all purposes non existent. Nobody is crying about it because there's nobody available to actually cry, as only Windows devs that already have Windows machines have been targeting it and in the larger picture all these WinMo devs put together are a tiny minority. That Android's SDK is multi-platform, that's one of the best features of Android. Do you know why? Because it slowly grows in the minds of developers that try it out and if you want to just try it out, there's no barrier to entry. All you have to do is to download it.
  - krobertson 15y ago
    It is true about WP7, however it doesn't refute my argument. I have only limited use of the iOS and Android dev tools, however overall found the iOS ones simpler to setup (ie, they're already there) and Android document somewhat weak for starting out. Xcode is the full experience, while Java is always "use your favorite IDE". However that goes down a different wormhole, and personally, I don't care for Java. The multi-platform may be a factor for a hobbyist, but not someone looking to actually make money. If they are serious, they shouldn't see a problem spending $500 on a Mac mini, even less on a used system, or renting one in the cloud. We aren't talking major expenses.
    - bad_user 15y ago
      Oh right, so you're a real professional, not a pesky hobbyist. Well if you say so.
  - ceejayoz 15y ago
    > ... there's no barrier to entry... Other than being quite confusing to set up.
    - bad_user 15y ago
      The initial steps for setting up may be harder, but the steps you have to take to install an app on your development phone are waaaay easier, never mind the actual process of deployment on the marketplace.
Pheter 15y ago
Although the app store is filled with crappy apps.
winternett 15y ago
Ahh! I've fallen into another boring Apple circle jerk... Consider yourself lucky that Microsoft and Linux don't require you to have homogenous gear to require you to develop web apps hosted on their systems. I should not have to buy a specific brand of hardware to develop on that platform, otherwise, its not very "revolutionary" at all is it? The arrogant idea that mac is controlling quality by requiring a few select developers to make IOS apps is the reason I bought an Android phone, I'd rather deal with spyware and viruses than arrogant prudes.

krobertson 15y ago

I agree wholeheartedly. You develop iOS apps with Xcode. To support Windows, they need to then develop a whole Windows IDE, support it, etc. There isn't a significant reason to, there is no business sense in it. Microsoft doesn't have an IDE for Mac to write Windows Phone 7 apps, and I don't see anyone crying about it.

bad_user 15y ago
That's because Windows Phone 7 is for all purposes non existent. Nobody is crying about it because there's nobody available to actually cry, as only Windows devs that already have Windows machines have been targeting it and in the larger picture all these WinMo devs put together are a tiny minority. That Android's SDK is multi-platform, that's one of the best features of Android. Do you know why? Because it slowly grows in the minds of developers that try it out and if you want to just try it out, there's no barrier to entry. All you have to do is to download it.
- krobertson 15y ago
  It is true about WP7, however it doesn't refute my argument. I have only limited use of the iOS and Android dev tools, however overall found the iOS ones simpler to setup (ie, they're already there) and Android document somewhat weak for starting out. Xcode is the full experience, while Java is always "use your favorite IDE". However that goes down a different wormhole, and personally, I don't care for Java. The multi-platform may be a factor for a hobbyist, but not someone looking to actually make money. If they are serious, they shouldn't see a problem spending $500 on a Mac mini, even less on a used system, or renting one in the cloud. We aren't talking major expenses.
  - bad_user 15y ago
    Oh right, so you're a real professional, not a pesky hobbyist. Well if you say so.
- ceejayoz 15y ago
  > ... there's no barrier to entry... Other than being quite confusing to set up.
  - bad_user 15y ago
    The initial steps for setting up may be harder, but the steps you have to take to install an app on your development phone are waaaay easier, never mind the actual process of deployment on the marketplace.

Pheter 15y ago

Although the app store is filled with crappy apps.

winternett 15y ago

Ahh! I've fallen into another boring Apple circle jerk... Consider yourself lucky that Microsoft and Linux don't require you to have homogenous gear to require you to develop web apps hosted on their systems. I should not have to buy a specific brand of hardware to develop on that platform, otherwise, its not very "revolutionary" at all is it? The arrogant idea that mac is controlling quality by requiring a few select developers to make IOS apps is the reason I bought an Android phone, I'd rather deal with spyware and viruses than arrogant prudes.