> no environmental organisation is saying that everyone should go vegan to save the planet. Where did I say that? I would suggest you read more carefully and n

> no environmental organisation is saying that everyone should go vegan to save the planet. Where did I say that? I would suggest you read more carefully and not just place words in other people's mouths. I said a 'more plant-based diet', which means a reduction in meat consumption. And guess what - if more people would choose to follow this advice given by those organizations listed previously - it would mean fewer animals would have to be killed, which in turn means less cruelty towards animals overall and environmental destruction, i.e. a more vegan planet. And read the official definition of veganism I posted earlier. It's not dogmatic, but rather promotes pragmatism. It says to avoid exploiting animals when practically possible, which means that it's unavoidable to eat meat when you need it to survive and there are no other foods available. > The food industry is responsible for the destruction of the environment Yes agreed. Our food system is not sustainable - that's why it needs to change. > Because you don't really care about the environment, about animal suffering, or about peoples' lives. If I don't care about animal suffering or the environment, why have I given up supporting the meat & dairy industry and stopped consuming their products? Doesn't make sense, does it? > Pfffhahaha. That's just a laughable attempt to try and turn the tables on me. How am I turning the tables? You called me a fanatic and being part of a cult. I merely explained, based on the official definition of fanatic - your behavior and comments show traits of being a fanatic, someone who isn't able to shift their opinion, even if there is ample evidence to show their opinion is flawed. Your opinion seems to be a) meat industry doesn't destroy the environment, b) animals don't suffer or feel pain. > It doesn't work because I don't have any ideology Definition of Ideology: "a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture" Based on your comments, your ideology seems to be that animals are here to serve us, it's OK to exploit and kill them regardless of consequences. It's OK for them to suffer so we can have our cheese & meat. Tradition trumps logic and critical thinking. Many people have that view about animals - so wouldn't you say you're part of that group - sharing the same content of thinking? > You only care about one singular subject: meat. Meat meat meat meat meat. What do you mean? I don't follow. I mentioned several subjects. So for your benefit, let me list them again: - Protecting the Environment - Animal rights - not taking their life against their will - Not supporting an industry that makes factory farm workers suffer from PTSD > But you are. Because you're a fanatic, a zealot, a follower, a cult member. You don't like it? Get used to it. So a 'follower' of scientific evidence means I'm part of a cult and I'm a fanatic? A fanatic usually doesn't change their opinion when presented with evidence. Show me the evidence that: A) animal factory farming doesn't create environmental damage B) animals are like plants - i.e. animals don't suffer and that's why it's OK to kill and exploit them. I used to eat meat when I was a teenager - but then changed my opinion when I saw what damage my eating habits caused. Sorry to say this, but the term fanatic applies more to your current behavior - as you ignore the evidence.