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> It's really hard to find fiction books, that are less than 500 pages. For SF & F this seems to be a deliberate choice, from what I understand. This is from a
by YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
> It's really hard to find fiction books, that are less than 500 pages.
For SF & F this seems to be a deliberate choice, from what I understand. This is from an iterview with Ted Chiang:
TC: I think the reaction varies, because science fiction is a more commercial genre. There are a lot more people in science fiction whose goal is to make a living from writing fiction by publishing one or more novels a year. And people who enter science fiction generally receive more messaging about fiction writing as a sole source of income than, say, people entering mainstream fiction. The messaging there is different: get an MFA, teach; it’s understood that your teaching position supports your career as a writer. For writers entering science fiction, that’s not really a thing yet. We’re maybe getting there, but the messaging they receive is mostly: Be very prolific.
https://culture.org/an-interview-with-ted-chiang/ https://culture.org/an-interview-with-ted-chiang/
>> As [Stephen King] got more and more famous, he started being able to bully his editors, to the point where his work is barely edited at all.
Yeah, I kinda noticed that too. I picked up a book of his and couldn't finish it because it felt like every episode in the story was written so that it took maybe ten, maybe fifty more pages than it really needed to. Extreme padding.
I think Liu Cixin also went through something similar. The Dark Forest was lean and mean. The next two books were progressively fatter and more verbose and full of aimless meandering. Though maybe that was an attempt to complete a trilogy to capitalise on the first book, if I'm more cynical.
- jacksnipe 4y agoWhile I see where you’re coming from re: The Three Body Problem Vs the rest of the series, the core ideas in the Dark Forest and Deaths End are so exciting that I can’t help but feel the rest of the story is a justification for exploring them.
- YeGoblynQueenne 4y agoOops- I meant The Three Body Problem was lean and mean Thanks!
- JJMcJ 4y ago> extreme padding First drafts tend to be verbose. Poor editing contributes to that kind of prose slipping through into publication. As to huge page counts, mysteries are similar to science fiction as genres but I don't see a push to expand to huge sizes. All genres are places where earning a living is possible. Someone said if you have a popular mystery series, every public library will buy at least one hardback copy of each of your books. If you are big time popular, they might order 20 copies, like the last few Sue Grafton books. Similar for ebook and audio books.
- drakonka 4y agoI think page padding is more a thing in self publishing. I'm part of a few fiction writer communities and longer (in general) makes more money. You are advised to start with short stories and graduate to novels as soon as possible. This is especially true for authors enrolling their books in Kindle Unlimited. They are paid per page read. The more pages they can have the reader go through without boring them enough to just quit, the more they get paid.