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1. Pence does no speak for the GOP. And while we’re here, a single individual does not speak for a party, be it left or right. 2. Notice he said state? 3. How

1. Pence does no speak for the GOP. And while we’re here, a single individual does not speak for a party, be it left or right. 2. Notice he said state? 3. How come this hasn’t happened before when there was a republican majority? 4. And this is the most important one, republicans don’t believe in expanding federal law, only reducing it. Which conflicts with the idea of a federal ban. I understand your emotional at the moment, but you’re spreading and becoming a victim of FUD.

mlyle 4y ago
> How come this hasn’t happened before when there was a republican majority? About the most aggressive ban that could be passed federally, before Roe was overturned, was passed by Republicans in 2007. > republicans don’t believe in expanding federal law, only reducing it. Which conflicts with the idea of a federal ban. Why'd they pass a 20-week ban federally in 2007? In practice, very few people truly believe in a consistent ideology either way about states' rights. You'll find Democrats that believe things should be left to the states when it benefits them and when Republicans are in power. And you'll find Republicans eager to expand federal spending and powers when they occupy the institutions of power. Also, read what Republicans in Congress are saying publicly: https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/gop-eyes-federal-abortion-restrictions-dobbs https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/gop-eyes-federal-abortion-r...
- tekknik 4y ago
  So to be clear, you’re perfectly ok stabbing a viable fetus in the head? Isn’t that what 2007 was about, not literally murdering babies? Sorry, I don’t agree that the 2007 partial birth abortion ban is wrong.
  - mlyle 4y ago
    We're not debating the right or wrong of it-- we're debating your assertion that policymakers won't make federal law about abortion. A) They've indicated that they will, and B) they have before. Nice try to gallop to something you consider more defensible after your previous point was soundly refuted.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      I disagree, you’ve seen a few say they’re interested in a federal ban, but that’s not the majority. And if the polls are to be believed, who is going to vote for these republicans? The majority of republicans reduce federal laws, not increase them. Some laws, like murder, should be federal. It’s quite easy to see the difference between the partial birth ban and overturning of precedence Roe created.

mlyle 4y ago

> How come this hasn’t happened before when there was a republican majority? About the most aggressive ban that could be passed federally, before Roe was overturned, was passed by Republicans in 2007. > republicans don’t believe in expanding federal law, only reducing it. Which conflicts with the idea of a federal ban. Why'd they pass a 20-week ban federally in 2007? In practice, very few people truly believe in a consistent ideology either way about states' rights. You'll find Democrats that believe things should be left to the states when it benefits them and when Republicans are in power. And you'll find Republicans eager to expand federal spending and powers when they occupy the institutions of power. Also, read what Republicans in Congress are saying publicly: https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/gop-eyes-federal-abortion-restrictions-dobbs https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/gop-eyes-federal-abortion-r...

tekknik 4y ago
So to be clear, you’re perfectly ok stabbing a viable fetus in the head? Isn’t that what 2007 was about, not literally murdering babies? Sorry, I don’t agree that the 2007 partial birth abortion ban is wrong.
- mlyle 4y ago
  We're not debating the right or wrong of it-- we're debating your assertion that policymakers won't make federal law about abortion. A) They've indicated that they will, and B) they have before. Nice try to gallop to something you consider more defensible after your previous point was soundly refuted.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    I disagree, you’ve seen a few say they’re interested in a federal ban, but that’s not the majority. And if the polls are to be believed, who is going to vote for these republicans? The majority of republicans reduce federal laws, not increase them. Some laws, like murder, should be federal. It’s quite easy to see the difference between the partial birth ban and overturning of precedence Roe created.